David Carter married a pioneer divorcee 30 years his junior. They are in a Glasgow congregation.
David Algar may have charisma but he's a bit of an arrogant chump in my opinion. Reminded me of Ron Drage, a smoothy business man.
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David Algar & UK DO's
by stevieb1 inhas anyone ever had any dealings with some of the uk district overseer's such as david algar and paul presland.
i remember listening to them speak at circuit assemblies and you couldn't hear a pin drop.
just wondering if they are still do's?.
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Was There Ever A Circuit Overseer That You Couldn't Stand?
by minimus ini know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.
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Anglise
Glen's breakdown was after our circuit (SE Scotland) no doubt brought on by dealing with a disastrously corrupt body of elders. Afterwards they even changed the name of the congregation. That was over 10 years ago, and he did go back on circuit before retiring.
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Was There Ever A Circuit Overseer That You Couldn't Stand?
by minimus ini know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.
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Anglise
Glen and Sally McFarlane are off circuit work and I think they're in a congregation in the north east of England now.
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WTS says "There will be no more tradesmen after Armageddon"!
by ozziepost inwe've probably all had bad experiences with defective building or repair jobs, but our reactions would never have reached the limit to which the borg has gone.
in one of the wts' study books, the r&f are told:.
"with just as much zeal as ever for the house of god's worship, the heavenly high priest jesus christ will see to it that the closing words of zechariah's prophecy are fulfilled: "and there will no more prove to be a canaanite [or, tradesman] in the house of jehovah of armies in that day"- zechariah 14:21. the designation canaanite was synonymous with "tradesman".
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"plonkers" - now there's a word I haven't heard in a while! And so appropriate. Having said that, I used to say there would be no industry or technology and that after A it would be a return to living like Abraham, but I only said it to freak out all the big fat Western softies.
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The Convention/My life.
by ScoobySnax intwickenham stadium.
london.
so i'll drive up there this next coming sunday, stressed to the eyeballs with all the traffic, making wrong turns, panicking when the traffic gets too heavy in central london, wondering if i'm following the right turns, stopping and looking at my a-z, wishing my family we're still with me.
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Hi Scoob
I resigned as an elder and came out at 30. It was fairly traumatic but I had never hated myself for my sexuality, nor really had any faith in the Bible. My choice was between pleasing my family and having my own life and eventually I realised that as they all had their lives I warranted one too. It took me a year to be clear in my head what that life was to be. My life conforms to no strict gay/straight community or stereotype, it's mine.
But being gay and having a belief in the Truth is difficult. I have a number of friends who are gay witnesses and the most successful ones are those that completely sublimate their desires and throw themselves into the organisation as pioneers, circuit overseers or whatever. Those that linger on the fringe live what I can only describe as dessicated lives. One actually describes himself as living in a state of suspended animation. I've read blogs by gay witnesses that sound the same.
Your crossroads may be daunting, but it may also be exhilirating, whichever route you choose.
Good luck.
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Disappointed not disfellowshipped.
by scotsman inmy mum recently grassed me in to the elders.
to be precise.
she told him that she knew i was being immoral, i think she said that i had confessed it to her.
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You're right, the issue is between my mum and me, but it's more a case of her doing the 'right thing' by the WTBTS than using them as an excuse to be self righteous with regard to my lifestyle. I omitted to say that her decision to speak to the elders came as a result of my eldest brother and his wife putting pressure on her and then writing a letter asking a friend in London Bethel for his opinion. He, naturally, thought she should tell the elders and then leave it in Jehovah's hands. Shame, he's a genuinely caring guy.
Little Toe, I'm in Edinburgh on Friday 1st but leave for Tiree the following day. It'd be interesting to meet up.
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p.s And hey, if anyone gets to use the 'dysfunctional' label round here it should be me!
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Disappointed not disfellowshipped.
by scotsman inmy mum recently grassed me in to the elders.
to be precise.
she told him that she knew i was being immoral, i think she said that i had confessed it to her.
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Thanks for your replies. I think I just needed to hear people say, “yeah, we know what that’s like”.
I left the org 2 years ago and have a fantastically supportive group of friends, and only 4 or 5 who are Witnesses. The fact that they have remained close is testament to the strength of our friendships but I think that me being disfellowshipped would have stretched them too far. You’re right that my mum was torn in making this decision and is hugely relieved that I’m not disfellowshipped, but I still can’t talk to her about it. Ideally I’d like her to apologise but that would negate her principled action so I don’t expect it. Over time we’ll know doubt salvage something of our relationship, but only when my hurt has subsided enough for my compassion and sympathy to resurface.
Thanks again for all your kind words.
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Disappointed not disfellowshipped.
by scotsman inmy mum recently grassed me in to the elders.
to be precise.
she told him that she knew i was being immoral, i think she said that i had confessed it to her.
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My mum recently grassed me in to the elders. The C.O. to be precise. She told him that she knew I was being immoral, I think she said that I had confessed it to her. Then she told me what she had done. I was stunned. Weeks prior she had told me that she would be willing to have dinner with me and my partner (male). Within a few days the elders started trying to contact me and over the period of a week I ignored their telephone messages. Although I work in a family business my mum and I have barely spoken to one another - work topics only - as if I was already disfellowshipped. Then yesterday she pipes up that the elders have decided not to pursue it and so I won’t be disfellowshipped. She clearly expected me to be relieved.
It feels like an anti-climax. It also means that my potential anger with the WTBTS has nowhere to go and all I’m left with is my mum’s betrayal, and feeling extremely hurt. Although I can still blame the WTBTS on some level, the day to day fact is that it’s between my mum and me. We’re a close family, my father died 11 years ago and as the youngest son left at home I’m the one who helped her through her grief and helped her develop a successful life as a widow. She’s a kind, generous and loving woman and yet she was prepared to sacrifice our relationship for her religion. She says that I must understand why she did what she did, and the annoying thing is that I do.
I know she loves me, I love her, I just feel so hurt that I can’t resume the relationship we had before. What concerns me is that I will become the baddie in this, that it will be me who cools our relationship because I’m hurt rather than her withdrawing because I’m disfellowshipped.
Am I making sense?
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Supreme Court Ruling Thursday on Grounds of Privacy
by ninecharger inthursday, the supreme court overturned the ruling in the 1986 georgia case bowers v hardwick.
in essence the court said that anti-sodomy laws are unconstitutional as they invade the citizen's right to sexual privacy.
how will the wt react?
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The Pay Attention book gets updates and I have a vague recollection that the 'overnight stay' stuff is no longer solely enough for conviction. Perhaps we need an active elder to check his book.
I'm currently being hunted by an elder and hate the fact that I check all the cars for chees cracker spies as I approach my front door.
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Harry Potter Versus The Watchtower.
by SpannerintheWorks indoes anybody have any wbts literature references that criticize, condemn or warn against harry potter books and films?.
you see, my wife and family (jw) "love" harry potter, and so it would be great to be able to show them how absurd the watchtower society is for condemning harry potter, if indeed it does.
i am assuming the wbts would disapprove of such demonic witchcraft and the like that is contained in the harry potter publications!.
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Same again I'm afraid: Just condemnation from the platform, nothing in print.