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  JWs & Medical ethics on BBC Radio 4 now.

  by scotsman in

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  8-8.30pm

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  was your cong like out of a chapter of Peyton Place?

  by littlerockguy in

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  the first congregation i went to basically was warm and friendly even though i didn't develop very many close friends there but some of the others i went to were rather scandulous in more ways than one.

  one that i went to im surprised anybody is still there that has a conscious with all that went on.

  was yours like that?

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  No, my congregation was more like The League of Gentleman.
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  How Do YOU Feel Knowing That YOU Were In A Cult?

  by minimus in

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  for years, i refused to think of the witnesses as a "cult".

  too harsh and restrictive of a word for me......but there is no denying that we were all in a mind controlling cult.

  are you embarrassed or uncomfortable knowing that you belonged to a cult just like the moonies and the branch davidians are/werw a cult?

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  Disappointed it wasn't more exciting.
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  What do you think of justice in the UK?

  by dmouse in

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  there was a horrible story about a special-needs teacher this month who was subject to a campaign of violence and intimidation from local youths.

  the police ignored her repeated requests for action and in desperation, when she again saw her car being vandalised, she ran out brandishing an air-pistol to scare the yobs off.

  she was promptly arrested and sentenced to six months in prison.

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  Can Linda Walker's case really be held as an example of the quality of the judiciary? I'm not sure. While I think the sentence was disproportionate, I would also describe her action as the same.

  The low conviction rate of rape cases can not be entirely blamed upon either the police or the CPS. Having recently been part of a jury for a rape case that would only convict the defendant of sexual assault when he confessed to having sex with her, albeit consensual, I have grave doubts about the justice meted out by your peers.
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  Do J.W.'s still spank their kids in Kingdom Hall libraries to punish them?

  by hubert in

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  2. beliefs

  i've heard a lot on this subject, and was wondering if it's a common practice?.

  can you go to a meeting and almost always see some poor kid getting a walloping in the back room for talking or misbehaving at the meeting?

  or is this a thing of the past?.

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  God, I must be bored to be looking up the WT CD! Here's a fairly recent comment on Proverbs 22v15 from the WT.

  *** w02 3/1 p. 32 "Now, This May Hurt" ***The rod, in this instance, is a symbol of parental authority. It is true that few children like discipline. If it involves punishment of some sort, they may resent it. However, wise and loving parents look beyond the child?s hurt feelings to the eventual gain

  There are one or two more recent references that are completely ambiguous as to what discipline comprises.
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  Do J.W.'s still spank their kids in Kingdom Hall libraries to punish them?

  by hubert in

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  i've heard a lot on this subject, and was wondering if it's a common practice?.

  can you go to a meeting and almost always see some poor kid getting a walloping in the back room for talking or misbehaving at the meeting?

  or is this a thing of the past?.

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  I vaguely recall a C.O. giving a talk that included comments on the relevant scripture. He said that the word translated rod could also mean crook, therefore it wasn't about physically chastising the child but guiding them or rescuing them. Maybe he got that from the WT you're thinking of Listener.
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  What were your reasons for not liking the ministry school?

  by LongHairGal in

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  i dropped out years ago because i couldn't stand getting together with sisters i didn't like to do a talk.

  i hated it with a passion!!

  i do realize that you did learn but what i resented was that the sisters were inflicted on each other in a way that i don't think the brothers were.

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  Soledad,

  When I was School overseer I was always trying to get the sisters to think imaginatively like you and your mum. It was rare anyone tried. I'm glad some sisters tried to make the most of a misogynistic arrangement, good for you.

  When on the school I used to try and incorporate lyrics from music that I liked, usually from the Smiths or Prince. It kept me and my other disrespectful friends amused. I also remember that while my big brother took the school I'd always use an illustration that took the piss out of him - it was nice slagging him off to a large group of people.
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  Saluting the American Flag

  by jeffk378 in

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  the other day my wife and i were at a function and the naitonal anthem was sung.

  my wife wouldnt stand because the society tells her not to.

  i think this is disgusting.

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  But, do the witnesses in the United Kingdom stand up and sing God Save the Queen? If not, were there ever any ramafications to that? Just curious.

  From what I recall, they can stand up if the sovereign is present, but not sing. Few JWs attend the same events as the Queen. Other events where she wasn't present and the anthem is played, they would stay seated, and the worst ramification would be a glance and a tut.

  Saying that, I can't think of any event I've been at in the past 20 years where the anthem is played. That's a lie. It's been played at rugby matches and we've (Scots) all booed. That's how seriously we take the anthem. You lot seem a tad fanatical from our reserved point of view.
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  Slacker Pioneering

  by scotsman in

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  as i was reading the thread about not at homes i wondered if anyone else a slacker pioneer?.

  there was a bunch of us in our hall that went out on a wednesday.

  we usually managed about 45mins before needing a coffee which somehow extended through lunchtime, maybe interupted by a return visit that hopefully wasn't home.

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  A few of us had read Coupland's Generation X and took it more seriously than the NWT.

  tijkmo, why doesn't it surprise me that you took it seriously...

  p.s. I noticed you quoting from Between The Lines... that's a little Kinsey 3!
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  Last JW meeting

  by greendawn in

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  when you finally came to the jw meeting that you knew was your last one, what were your thoughts, feelings or actions?

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  my last was the summer convent of 1986. i stood there until everyone left and then i took a picture with my new camera of the empty stadium, the wish being that the wts would collapse and never fill up again stadiums with people.

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  I should add that I didn't feel angry because while I was being described as borderline wicked for not answering, declining the offer of a bible study, meeting ex Witnesses, and questioning the need for reporting I was thinking that if only they knew about the sex I was having with my boyfriend, these would seem pretty trivial.

  It was in May 2002.