LT
It's the Noughties. I would have thought you'd know, but then I did see a confession to listening to Europe 5,4,3,2....
all of us were born in the 1900's.
during this past century, the earth has been incredibly impacted, and societies around the world have been irrevocably altered.. everyone has been powerfully influenced- at the individual level, the family level, the community level, the regional level, national level and global level.
in fact, we could say that most of this actually defines who we are, and how we see ourselves and others.. one of the problems is, how do we make sense of where we actually fit in history.
LT
It's the Noughties. I would have thought you'd know, but then I did see a confession to listening to Europe 5,4,3,2....
i recently gave a public talk, and i really felt bad about it.. it was the public talk about the great flood of noahs days.
the is so much evidence that this great deluge never happened, but that is something you can't tell the audience from the stage.
(i will tell about that evidence if people are interested, but it is a bit off-topic now).
DB
Like you I cruised along without a belief in god, thinking I was helping people with a hope even if it was an illusion. But eventually the hypocrisy became too much and I realized that there were more helpful things than shepherding, conducting the watchtower study or the ministry school. Slow fade or sharp stop, you'll lose friends and family either way but you'll most likely be a lot more content. Good luck.
well i had written up 30 or so questions for the elders.
i made it very easy.
ther were mostly simple questions with yes or no answers.
If Witnesses are asked any questions that seem to be even slightly informed they suspect contact with apostates. And of course, they are usually correct.
would you go to a funeral at a kingdom hall?
would it have to be someone that is very close family or just an acquaintance?.
i dont know that jw funerals really off ther much closer and point blank i can not think of a single person i would go to the hall for.
No I wouldn't go to a Witness funeral, wherever it was. I went to one a year after I left the Witnesses and most of the attendees were from families I'd grown up with, my ex best friends. They were friendly but at a distance and that in itself was depressing. While I don't attend funerals I do usually write to friends who's relative has died.
When members of my immediate family die I wont attend their funerals only to have my grief compounded by facing individuals who cut me from their lives. I've agreed with my mother that I'll scatter her ashes. My goodbye to her wont require an audience.
Oh, and happy birthday Delilah!
the new york post has an article on how the police commissioner plans on having spy cameras put in certain city streets that have high crime activity----not to monitor activity as it's happening but to review footage if a crime did occur in the area---after the fact.________what's your thought on this?
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EF
Side issue but what is this 'cctv as staple of British TV' you keep refering to? The only one I've seen is on a cable network and is from US police cars presented by Troy McLure. Maybe I watch less trash TV than I thought I did...
recently i was amazed to read in another thread that jw females are not even allowed to walk up and down the aisles counting those in attendance.
the poster said jw women literally "don't count" - a brilliant play on words.
i guess i had never thought about it before, but it got me wondering about all the behind-the-scene work jw females do, but their invisibility in the public arena.
As LT has given the Western Isles version of events I'll offer those of the Central Belt...
Cremations are by far the most common of arrangements here and most funerals take place in crematoria with services in the Hall being uncommon. It's been rare for me to see anyone other than undertakers carry the coffin into the crematorium at either JW or non JW funerals. Of the burials I have attended it has again been undertakers carrying the coffin but with male relatives lowering the cords into the grave, with no difference between JW and non JW burials. The sexism of funeral behaviour is not a JW thing.
The exception to all these was the funeral of a JW teenager who had cystic fibrosis. The service was in the KH with the closed coffin present and carried by six sisters - despite it being somewhat contrary to cultural norms it caused no fuss.
dear brothers & sisters in christ,
may i say at the onset: i am not a j.w.
but i am a fellow christian.
Gill
While I'm sorry you have probelms in your neighbourhood, I still can't see exactly how ID cards will fix this. It doesn't stop terrorism in Spain.
dear brothers & sisters in christ,
may i say at the onset: i am not a j.w.
but i am a fellow christian.
Gill
How on earth will ID cards stop those problems?
i'm flipping through the channels today and i happend upon a 30 min interview with mr cruise.
i was curious and there was nothing else on so i decided to watch it.
this was a 30 minute advertisement for scientology.
Katie Holmes is going out with TC?! These are the last days.
ok sometimes i feel it's good to maybe not redress the balance, but at least can you say something positive that you gained from your jw experience.
so thats what i want you to do, if you so feel inclined.
can you say or mention something that had a positive effect on you when you were a witness?
Ozzie
The point is though, is it what it claims to be, you know "the Troof". It wouldn't matter what jolly times we had, if it was a lie, then it'd be a sheer waste of time.
Is that the point? Some believe that most religions are a lie, and that they are all a sheer waste of time. (I'm not trying to debate with you!) I basically don't care what JWs believe, but I do care that they shun former members. People are entitled to all sorts of cookie beliefs but the JW policies on how they treat former members is, in my opinion, their most harmful.
Congratulations on your 10000th post!