Posts by Ravyn

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Is anyone going to the special talk today?

by dmouse in

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there is a special talk today, evidently about our old friend babylon the great.

there is some speculation that it might be related to the possible new light on the un that undisfellowshipped spoke about in his thread:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/50250/1.ashx.

Ravyn

best Special Talk I ever went to was back in 96 in Brattleboro VT when two sisters got in a rumble about a baby shower invite and the elders watched gape mouthed as one single sister beat the hell out of a poor little mousy married one. Sisters were grabbing the kids and covering their eyes! Every one stood there frozen in disbelief as the aggressive sister punched the other one in the face up against a wall and screamed obscenities until another sister, with some heft to her, took them both down in a tackle that would have made even her native Scotland proud to have her on their team! I was so ashamed. Private reproof was all that concluded the matter which was very very public(Special Talk in front of all the 'newly interested ones')! It was so beyond the last straw for me that I was just in shock for weeks. Ha! No one would go into the Ladie's Room alone with that sister!

Ravyn

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Did Being A Witness Screw You Up THAT Much???

by minimus in

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a number of people feel that basically, not only was their life stolen from them because they were witnesses, but because of their being at one time jw's, they are screwed for the rest of their lives.

are you in that category?

Ravyn

I am not in the forever screwed category. however, I was born and raised third generation screwed up and gave them my youth and health and strength and even had a tubal ligation done when I was still young enough to have children because I was seeing an elder and he did not want kids and I was a reg pioneer and the rest of the elders advised me to do it as a sacred service(I can always have kids in the New World right?---unless I am resurrected and become a eunuch....) I missed college, career and family and lost friends, family and livelihood to leave--at age 34. they took so much from me, but I am determined that they do not take anymore. My life is mine now. good, bad or ugly. but I will always have scars.

Ravyn

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How Many Here Changed Their Personality After Leaving The Witnesses?

by minimus in

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are you still the same basic person that you were when you were a witness.

if you were idealstic, then, are you still now?

if you were a pessimist, are you an optimist, now?

Ravyn

it took me a whole year to make the plans for my physical escape from the JWs. That last year I changed so much I was unrecognizable even to my family. I lost 100 pounds. Unbeknownst to anyone but me and my 'dates' I was seeing non-dubs and having sex when I wanted to--with who I wanted to have it with. I also had what was my latest and most severe Near-Death Experience. All this changed me so much I was afraid I was going insane for a little while. I changed my favorite foods, my favorite color, everything. I considered such concepts as 'walk-ins' and 'soul-transfers'. And as soon as I could physically walk away I walked out of the Kingdom Hall--never looked back and began immediately practicing witchcraft 3000 miles away with a new name and a new life. I had a paralegal friend write a letter on her attorneys letter head to Bethel saying I died--faithful and that I partook the last Memorial.

I made a complete psychic and emotinal break, and I have not back tracked once. It has been 6 1/2 yrs since I physically left.

Ravyn

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can't wait for Halloween!

by Ravyn in

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my husband and i were discussing the thread about ripostes to jws who shun you in public...and we came up with a cool idea for halloween this year!

first, find out if it is on a meeting night or if the local pizza hut will be hosting the annual jw hide-from-the-trick-or-treaters 'get together'.

then dress up like a smurf, blue body paint and all, but maybe with an axe burried in your head and fake blood....and either go knock on the kingdom hall door during the meeting and say 'trick or treat!

Ravyn

My husband and I were discussing the thread about ripostes to JWs who shun you in public...and we came up with a cool idea for Halloween this year! First, find out if it is on a meeting night or if the local Pizza Hut will be hosting the annual JW Hide-From-The-Trick-Or-Treaters 'get together'. then dress up like a smurf, blue body paint and all, but maybe with an axe burried in your head and fake blood....and either go knock on the Kingdom Hall door during the meeting and say 'Trick or treat!' or crash the pizza party with your own 'get-together'! can you imagine what they would think of a huge smurf if it walked right in their Kingdom Hall and asked for candy? My husband thinks we should go to a professional costume shop and rent the real thing(Papa Smurf and the girl---whats her name?) like sport's mascots and follow them around in service.....or coffee break!

Ravyn

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What's Your Standard Riposte When You Come Face To Face With A JW?

by Englishman in

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i was just recalling the first few years when i was a well known apostate dub, a man of the world, an outcast to be shunned!.

back then, when i was still a familiar sight, before new dubs who did not recognise me came on the scene, i would often be ignored whilst in town shopping or even whilst imbibing a quick half in the pub.. i quickly realised that there wasn't much satisfaction in being on the receiving end of a snub, or, as h.g.

wells so splendidly described it in "kipps": "cut!

Ravyn

depends on where I am. If I am at a restaurant, I usually go up to them and say, 'uh I thot you shoulf know---you have something stuck in your teeth...' or if I am at a store I will say 'your blouse is unbuttoned' or 'your zipper is down' and when they look I say 'made ya look! made ya look!' and walk away laughing. or if I know their names I will have them paged over the store speaker, just to say Hi.

Ravyn

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Deicide

by BATHORY in

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g'day pixel people !.

deicide the heavy metal band's lead singer ( or grunter ), glen benton is as some here would know a self proclaimed satanist.

i have followed his carrer since the change from amon ( previous band ) till now, seen countless interviews and read many also.

Ravyn

well being that I was a JW for 34 yrs and have called myself a Satanist for about 2 yrs...I can just say that the satanists who actually believe in Satan seem to me to be the flip side of the same coin JWs are on. rebellion against mainstream organized christianity(sic catholicism)-so lets go to the extreme offensive side. even among satanists who actually believe in satan, it is rare to find one who worships the christian idea of satan, since it would not be anti-christian if it contained any christianity, even negative christianity. so as far as this guy----yay for him he is anti-JW, but satanism has nothing to do with it. he would probably be that way even if Satan did not inspire his lyrics. Maybe he has low self-esteem and can't give himself the credit he deserves(which is what most satanists would do.) he is merely living a stereotype. it is his choice, but it does not do much for promoting satanism. it does however sell CDs to teenagers and others who want to rebel but can't. So maybe he is being a 'normal' satanist after all. But we dont all burn pentagrams into our foreheads.

Ravyn

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Dumb Question.

by unique1 in

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i am new and have no idea what dub stands for.

can someone please feel me in?

Ravyn

rub-a-dub dub?

you get disfellowshipped.

Ravyn

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Mystical Medicine - Breaking Their Own Rules

by worldlygirl in

my jw husband's jw parents in florida (the ones who shunned him for years when he was disfellowshipped) were recently raving about their new ceragem massage bed.

the actually purchased one for their home for around $2,000.

they say many members of their congregation use these beds at a ceragem location there in ft. lauderdale.

Ravyn

JWs have been susceptible to snake oil and pyramid schemes since Charles Taze Russell(LOL I just realized the pyramid pun...)

But some alternative methods do actually have some merit. Anything that helps you to relax can be healing to many modern complaints. I think the crime will be when the elders do get wind of it and have to force the people to STOP using it!

but, yes, I did know of alot of JWs involved in some pretty extreme alternative medicines. I think it has to do with the guilt of being so sinful--especially the enemas and colonics bit. and the idea that a paradise can bring freedom from sickness and eternal life....the river and trees that cure the nations in Revelation and all. I also do not discount that the very existence of JWs is due to the birth of the New Age movement in the mid nineteenth century. It is not all wrong---I think Russell had some very interesting ideas, but Rutherford screwed them up for power(similar to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young).

Ravyn

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Any dwarf nuns?

by searchfothetruth in

the seven dwarfs go to rome for an audience with the pope.. all of the dwarfs have spoke to the pope except dopey who has been hanging back to have a private word.. the other six dwarfs are standing in the corner of the room when dopey asks his question of the pope.. " your excellancy, do you have any dwarf nuns in rome ?".

the pope looks confused and after contemplating the question, says " no, my son, i don't".

the other six dwarfs start sniggering behind dopeys back and he blushes.. "do you have any dwarf nuns anywhere in europe?

Ravyn

http://www.pitt.edu/~eflst4/castello.htm

there is actually a dwarf nun, she has been dead hundreds of years and her body is incorrupt!

here is a pic of her body:

http://www.avemaria.org/Blessed%20Margaret/blessed_margaret.html

Ravyn

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I bought my daughter a bike

by teejay in

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the other day, my daughter and i celebrated her 4th birthday.

it wasnt much of a celebration only because i dont know how to go about celebrating birthdays.

all i knew to do was go to the grocery store close to where i drop her off everyday at the daycare and ordered her a little cake with happy birthday jj with sprinkles.

Ravyn

funny--- my own personal bike experience was that when I got the 'real' bike it was too hard to use(it had solid tires if I remember correctly and we lived in the country with dirt roads) and it sat for a couple of years in the kitchen next to the pantry. A purple and chrome thing with streamers on the hand grips. But then dad took off the training wheels and told me it was now or never. He was so cruel and demanding that after a few 'lessons' that were pure hell--I decided it was NEVER. Another couple of years and my little sister grew up enough to inherit that bike(poor kid!) and I was given another one that had air tires and no training wheels. It probably sat there for another year until I was so embarassed by not being able to ride it(I was probably in 3rd grade by then) that I took it out one day and used a cinder block to get on it (I was small too) and just rode it. After that, as the oldest kid in the cluster of houses there I became the bike riding instructor for all the younger ones. I must have taught atleast 8 other kids thru the year,(once on a bet I 'won' the neighbor girl a new bike from her dad in a crash-course, he challenged her to learn in one afternoon how to go thru an obstacle course her brothers had set up-she had to use my bike and she could barely even reach the pedals!) And I got pretty good with the dirt racing and tricks.

When we moved to the city when I was a teen ager I got a cruiser--but it was not the same and shortly after that I got ill with Lupus and my mobility and balance was impaired anyway. So bike riding kinda went by the wayside. But the memories of my dirt-biking days as a kid and teaching the others are fond memories! Wish I could see that bike again! It had a banana seat and a sissy bar! It was metallic lemon yellow that faded to an emerald green and had three speeds.....

Ravyn