Yes, this is a most interesting and intriguing subject.
Opening my Cookbooks and Frued simultaneously!
are people born with a desire to be with the other white meat?
why would a person choose that path when it leads to criticism, hatred, alienation, high cholesterol etc.
why wouldn't they just be normal if they could.
Yes, this is a most interesting and intriguing subject.
Opening my Cookbooks and Frued simultaneously!
oops, well i had intended to post a message along with this new topic and my fingers were faster than my brain (need more coffee .
well, i suppose it's like preaching to the converted; me obtaining this book, but i guess it's one of those things i just needed to do to finalize everything.. i know there are countless topics on ray franz' book.
but to finally pick it up, i feel like: 'i can hardly wait to read it'.. before, i more or less figured: 'i am out of the wtbts, so why bother?'.
For those of you who are trying to obtain the book. I ordered mine on-line via:
It didn't take too long for it to arrive. 1 week (with other books combined).
I have seen 'used' copies on ebay from time to time as well:
So check those two links out, if you cannot find the book at your local bookstore or Indigo-Chapters.
So far so good. It's more interesting than I had originally thought. It's a much easier read than I had expected.
oops, well i had intended to post a message along with this new topic and my fingers were faster than my brain (need more coffee .
well, i suppose it's like preaching to the converted; me obtaining this book, but i guess it's one of those things i just needed to do to finalize everything.. i know there are countless topics on ray franz' book.
but to finally pick it up, i feel like: 'i can hardly wait to read it'.. before, i more or less figured: 'i am out of the wtbts, so why bother?'.
There, that's better.
I knew I was still a big boggy in the head when I posted this. Moreso that here's the book and I look at the original spelling of my topic and whoa! did I get it wrong.
For the record: Crisis of Conscience
There!
Tried to correct it here, but settings on the site will not allow it.
Not worried about the book being destroyed or ruined. My pet birds do not particularly like the taste of paper.
I've fanned through the book quickly; taking a look at the overall appearance and layout.
Should be interesting.
As to how 'faithful' one was as a JW. Hmm? Reminds me of an old post I made years ago about 'Grades of Disfellowshipping'. That's the first thing I thought of. Hmm?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/56556/1.ashx
I'm sure this book will probably open my eyes to just other workings that I was not privy to. Preaching to the converted, no doubt. But things about the inner workings of the organization, I'm sure, will probably astonish me to some varying degree (not really surprising). For years, I just didn't need any convincing (hell no, I am NOT going back).
Having been out of the WTBTS for now...let's see, almost 24 years; I have no fear of any reprecussions.
From this point of in my life, reading this will probably just add to my pile of 'excellent reading material'. Perhaps, a good reference book to someone who may need some inside information about the WTBTS.
I'll get back to you all here, eventually, once I close the back cover.
oops, well i had intended to post a message along with this new topic and my fingers were faster than my brain (need more coffee .
well, i suppose it's like preaching to the converted; me obtaining this book, but i guess it's one of those things i just needed to do to finalize everything.. i know there are countless topics on ray franz' book.
but to finally pick it up, i feel like: 'i can hardly wait to read it'.. before, i more or less figured: 'i am out of the wtbts, so why bother?'.
Oops, well I had intended to post a message along with this new topic and my fingers were faster than my brain (need more coffee ).
Well, I suppose it's like preaching to the converted; me obtaining this book, but I guess it's one of those things I just needed to do to finalize everything.
I know there are countless topics on Ray Franz' book. But to finally pick it up, I feel like: 'I can hardly wait to read it'.
Before, I more or less figured: 'I am out of the WTBTS, so why bother?'
But perhaps now I am just more welcoming and receptive to it. Not that I was ever afraid of it, but I just honestly couldn't be bothered.
We'll see how the read goes. I am quite certain it'll be an eye opener .
I think I've read more books in 2 months that I've read in my entire life. Go figure!?
Off to read my new book.
tomorrow is such a huge day for australia; our brand-new pm will open his governments' first parliamentary session with the long-awaited apology to aboriginal australians for the time in our recent history when it was policy to remove aboriginal children from their parents.
in some places it was out of fear of abuse, in others it was just considered the best way to integrate part-aboriginal children into white society.
families were broken up, most for nobody's good.
Awesome!
Here in Canada.
Let me tell you; we have many shames. Oh no, we cannot pretend all was well with our country's aboriginal First Nations' Peoples.
Considering my maternal grandmother is Mi'kmaq (Abanaki-Algonquin eastern North American First Nations); there's so much to be said about the similarities. Canada - Australia.
That your prime minister is acknowledging this, is healing (not complete) but it must absolutely start the process.
I'm so impressed and happy to see such a post.
Having some aboriginal blood in my viens, it does give me some solace. Yes, even for peoples I may not immediately be necessarily related to.
What a wonderful post.
Yes, I understand your stance with regards to YOU.
Many First Nations' people I know here in the Lower Great Lakes Region of North America; simply seek the simplicity of 'acknowledgement'.
100s of years of negotiations have driven them to some rather unpopular protests.
Here in southern Ontario, trust me, many folks here know what I am referring to.
Ipperwash. Caledonia. < for starters.
There are others, but they've been met with outsiders' understandings.
Good for your PM for addressing such a huge weight.
Give HIM; if possible, a hug for me.
Next: you Aussies - get your own flag!!
We did here in Canada back in February 1965.
We're still part of the Commonwealth, but it'd be nice to see my Commonwealth brethren represent themselves as they totally see fit.
Ironically. Our Canadian flag; the famous red and white maple leaf - was designed by.....an Albertan.
The seat of Conservatism in this country.
Interesting, eh?
Congratulations to your country and nation: may the Australian Aboriginal Communities rejoice!!
there were a few things that i hated about being a witness.. i love music and live concerts.
quite often i'd have to play my music privately or hide an album cover for fear it might "stumble" someone.
i hated worrying whether someone was going to somehow get "stumbled.. regarding going to concerts, it seemed that certain artists only came to town on a meeting night and i'd miss the shows.. what did you hate about being a jehovah's witness?.
Aye ol' Red Dot, how the hell are ya?
Honestly, as much as I did believe and was supportive of the Borg while I was in it (even with doubts); field service - UGH!
I never had so many upset stomachs and trips to the loo - as a result of field service; nevermind my pioneering daze.
I did it, begrudgingly at the time because I did believe in it.
But I hated field service.
I'm confident, the people I called on equally confered.
my psychiatrist told me therapy was not going to cure my headaches (yah).
my home-doctor (i don't know if thats the system you have too, but here we have one general doctor who gives his patient referrals to see specialists), does not believe any referral to any medical specialist will help me.
that's cuz i have tried so much already, and any referral will give me hope that there might be a cure - which in his opninion is not possible.
(((Viv))) I know that's rather lame just mere words on a screen, but I am so sorry to read about this condition which is causing you so much misery.
Wish a good ol' Canadian hug would suffice/help. I know, it's just not that simple.
I'm sure you've tried everything under the sun. Who knows what counteracts or cancels other medication. Especially if you're on anti-depressants.
Come to Canada. We won't make your headache go away, but we'll give you a different one (from having too much fun).
Nice to see your name back on here as I've just jumped back in here after an almost 2.5 yr. absence.
Hugs to you darling.
i've been thinking about this alot tonite.
what do i talk about with my uncle when i see him on wednesday?
this will be the last time i see him alive.
"Thank you" (kiss/hug) if appropriate.
right - so i've met this guy through a friend - he's a little older than me (38, recently divorced, though separated for 2.5 years and has a little 4 year old daughter) he is quite a nice guy, we've been going out, having dinners and just getting to know each other - right now i'm quite happy being friends.. the thing is this guy uses so much sexual inuendo from fruit to head, to pips, you name it........ i mean i don't mind at all and have a good laugh, but what i'm trying to understand is what is he ""asking"" ""sussing out"" of me - if anything?.
thing is i'm good with straight up and ask if you want to move into a sexual relationship.
don't beat around the bush, or play games (well some games are fun when you're in a sexual relationship) so guys can be hard to read....... or perhaps i'm reading too much into it - i'm just not used to dealing with older men (i date guys around my age or younger).
Innuendo.
It's so shallow.
Talk about beating around the bush: good lord! sounds like someone who's a gardener wants to prune, sheer and perhaps put a stake inside his desired tree or SA shrub.
You seem pretty shrewd.
Not every hotdog is a sausage: nor every clam an oyster.
Time to put some horseradish on this one, see if he's as strong as his pheromones seem to indicate.
If not, like an annoying insect: swat his ass but good.
i'm going through it this weekend.
the right foot big toe joint.
i get this every couple of years and it is the most painful thing i've ever experienced.
Gout attack?
Yes, but not as bad as others stated here.
I've had it in my feet, especially the big toe.
In my hand: left index finger.
Yes, it's painful and reminds me of the limits of my body.
Thankfully, it's not as severe as others. I just have to watch my diet and be mindful that: I'm not 19 years old anymore.