Posts by Iwasyoungonce

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I suspect this will sound wierd

by buckthesystem in

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i have been reading about the witnesses for some time - but the information i read is always massively biased against.

it is even hard to tell if this web site is exclusively designed for aggrieved ex-witnesses.

i am at a loss here.

Iwasyoungonce

The jw's believe that they as the self appointed hallmark of god. Follow them or die.

The the persuit of truth, reality, and the facts should not bias.

Opinions are bias. Things that one can believe but can't prove with any evidence. They (jw) believe that they have THE God as their own. I believe they(jw) have created A god of their own. These are both bias opinions.

Do you believe the Witnesses to be unbias? People of honor? Loving? Tolerant? You say that you have studied them. What have you learned?

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Governing Body looking for work

by Iwasyoungonce in

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if the governing body of jehovah witnesses suddenly found themselves out of the power seat that they currently refuse to vacate what do you think might be a fitting job for them to fill?.

i vote for the gb to start making fortune cookie predictions.

finally they could put some of that self appointed spiritual powers to some worth while means.

Iwasyoungonce

If the governing body of jehovah witnesses suddenly found themselves out of the power seat that they currently refuse to vacate what do you think might be a fitting job for them to fill?

I vote for the GB to start making fortune cookie predictions.

Finally they could put some of that self appointed spiritual powers to some worth while means.

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Will They Abduct My Son!

by 68storm in

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i would appreciate some input from the board that is weighing quite heavy on mind.. as some of you may know, my ex divorced me six years ago, strictly for religious reasons.

after an enormous amount of legal funds, i succeeded in getting an agreement signed that states that when the child reaches an age that the courts consider mature enough, we would both allow him to make his choice of religions.

even if he wanted nothing to do with religion.. it would seem that the time has finally arrived.

Iwasyoungonce

Storm68,

These people do not fight with ethics. They fight to win and they are good at it. They should be respected in the sense of fear that they will do everything that they can to possess your son. They have a well thought out mind control program. And never believe that an X will be fair or honest. If it is not on paper and notorized though the courts it never happened. AND IT WILL bite you in the ass.

I hope that you have a good lawyer right now. One the has specialized knowlege and has dealt with the Jehovah Witnesses in court. If not Email me. These guys and your wife are at war with you Storm. You need to look at it that way. You are at war on three fronts.

1. Your wife terminated your marraige and now is suing your for thousands of dollars. To bad you can not sue for emotional distress and alienation of affection.

2. You are fighting for your son and not just to have him with you. His mind is also at stake, any chance of a normal childhood. These people are a clear and present danger to his well being.

3. You are at war with the WTBS. They will take you on in court. If your wife wins custody of your son then they get possession of him by defalt.

This is war Storm. You may not want it but it is what it is. Fight back and get a A#1 lawyer to allow your son his choice. One with experience fighing these SOB's.

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"Or maybe it isn't coming"

by RR in

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i'm "cleaning house" got a lot of stuff that's just needs to go!

but i came across this newspaper clipping: .

or maybe it isn't coming.

Iwasyoungonce

Maybe it already came.

Maybe death is as good as it gets. Does it really have to be worse? Or maybe I mean does it have to be better?

People worry to much.

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I'm feel very sorry for your people

by oldman10002002 in

dear brother's and sister's in the so called truth,

i was never baptized, as i just never fit in to your organization!!

1914 has come and gone and yet, the world is still going.

Iwasyoungonce

Good thing that rounded up 100% of the populaltion is in agreement with you. I do sometimes pity them but really many of them have yet to imagine that there is any other way to live. Even some who leave the stick and the stone and the magazines they still can't believe that there is any truth to life out here. In a word "delusional" while in and "disillusioned" when out.

42

Gone for good?

by JH in

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what would make you come back to the organisation?

after the 9-11 events, many were scared of what would happen next, and returned to the meetings.

now that the dust has fallen, in more ways than one, what event in your life would make you reconsider and go back this time for good.. .

Iwasyoungonce

I don't want to have any interaction with a God that demands that I worship him.

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What do you suggest I do about this?

by Mulan in

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my 90 year old jw mother told a friend of mine this yesterday: "marilyn said that not a day goes by that she doesn't regret leaving the truth.

" my friend called me to report it to me, because she knows better.. what i told mom is this: "i hope someday i will come to a time when i can forget i was ever a jw, and don't think about it every day.".

she got something different out of it than what i intended.. i don't care that she told this particular friend, but i would hate it if she is saying that to other people in her congregation.

Iwasyoungonce

Mulan,

This is one of those OH so frustrating issues. It seems that those in "there" will only hear what they want to hear. One personal story when some of my JW family worked for me; I told my mother in law that it seems like she and the elders act as if these employees are not to talk to anyone unless it is 100% job related and that will not work. She then went behind my back and told everyone that "through her" I said that the jw employees are not to talk to anyone unless it is absolutly required for work. (Which is not what I said and not what was meant. It is what she said through biblical jargon.)

When I found out what she had said a few weeks later I confronted her. I said that she was saying that "scripture" as she calls it demands that the person (who is my sister in law) not have any conversation that is not absolutley nessesary for work. I said no such thing. Her defense when confronted was "Well did you say the words "she is not to talk to anyone?" which I replied "you said it and I asked if that was what you were implying." And I told you that would her that will make her job miserable. All my mother in law said was "So you admit that you said those words." (she is nuts)

I'm sorry that your going through all of this. I opted out on all of it. And I'm still not completely free. Sometimes I wonder if I need to stop all contact with all things JW related. (Maybe like here.) I don't know.

Did you know that as a child you hear about 19 put downs and don'ts to every 1 good job or a "you did good." As we grow into adults we get in a horrible mindset. We can get 19 good jobs or a "you did good" and then get just 1 put down or negative comment and it wipes out all the comments that are good. (I believe that is Ericson psyc)

Have you ever noticed how things are going great no bad things and no jw things are in your mind everything is copastetic and then just one little trigger and boom it is dwell on it city. I have been working to reject that mentality. But it's tough.

Another thing that I do is make sure that I give as many positive comments as I can to my kids, my self, and my wife. I look for the good things that they,(and I) do and make sure to give praise. I even try to look over as many of the bads before I say OK I gota comment here this has to change. I find that as I do it that becomes a boomerang of good feelings. And that is good.

I doubt that will work with any jw and a free thinker relationship at least I failed miserably. But that does not mean that someone with more smarts or more will power can't be the one to walk the green mile of the relationship and get a stay of emotional execution.

42

Gone for good?

by JH in

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what would make you come back to the organisation?

after the 9-11 events, many were scared of what would happen next, and returned to the meetings.

now that the dust has fallen, in more ways than one, what event in your life would make you reconsider and go back this time for good.. .

Iwasyoungonce

After 9/11 all churches and religions had an upsurge in attendance. People were and are finding a new kind of unity.

I think that post 9/11 control groups like the Witnesses will see declines in numbers as people realize that it has nothing to offer them but the illusion that they have some kind of mystical powers like the cults of Baal or the temples of the Greek gods.

37

The mother of all gripes

by kenpodragon in

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i personally feel that the single biggest problem in modern society, is the lack of taking personal responsibility for our own actions.

i think that as a culture we have allowed people the room to make excuse after excuse, and accept these as something that should be legit.

well w e see kids raised in families that love them, feed them, take care of them to the best of their means.

Iwasyoungonce

Ken, (another great thought)

To take responsiblity for our own actions means that we can no longer shake our fist at God. Or say that Satan tricked me. We don't have to be afraid. I have found that belief, the one that says you are responsible for yourself; Hold yourself accountable for your actions good and bad before you start telling others when they are a victim, and when they are to blame is too deep for most. Religion, Government and the infamous "them" (You know, "They" say that....) Who are this "they?" is one thing I love to ask people who can not take action or responsibility. Blaming "them" is just to easy and addictive.

Another thing, It is helpful when one fixes the problem. It is not always helpful to fix the blame.

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Wall Street Journal on JWs

by teenyuck in

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i recently subscribed to the wall street journal online.

i found an editorial written by a senior editor, who was a jw!!.

article 2 of 14 .

Iwasyoungonce

I will have to write Mr. Jason L. Riley of the Wall Street Journal and thank him for his article. I didn't get the Wall Street in June but do now. And I think that the article is right on the mark. If the Witnesses feel that they "Can't get no respect" then maybe there is a reason for that. Maybe there is nothing to respect.() "Crackpots."() LMAO

The Judges say it all:

"If our free-speech jurisprudence is to be determined by the predicted behavior of such crackpots, we are in a sorry state indeed."

Besides how can anyone with a cool name like Jason ever be wrong.