Posts by aunthill

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How many of you belong to another religion now, and if so, which?

by berylblue in

i've always wanted so much to know the true god and to do his will, but it seems i struck out at the kh.

my deep spiritual need is not being met, but i don't want to jump from the frying pan into the fire, you know?.

beryl.

aunthill

(((((beryl)))))

I was raised Episcopalian. The priest wouldn't/couldn't answer my questions. When the dubs came to my door they answered my questions in what seemed like a very logical and reasonable manner. After 25 yrs as a dub, beating my brains out, exhausting myself, beating myself up trying to do everything they wanted so I could get a pat on the head from them, I gave up. Also during those years, I had many doubts that I would push back into that dark little corner of my mind, so that I wouldn't look at them.

When I left (da'd myself) I beat on heaven's door, told God how angry and disappointed and lost I was (it's OK, read Psalms). I knew there was a God, because I had 2 major prayers answered in totally unexpected ways, but I didn't know where to go after leaving the Watchtower. My oldest daughter had left before I did, and a friend got her going to a nondenominational Christian church, which she finally prevailed on me to go to. Also, a friend invited me to go to her nondenominational Charismatic/Pentecostal church. The second church really frightened me, because according to the JW's, everything they were doing (speaking in tongues, prophesying) was demonized, but I see now that their way of worship is just different from other Christians.

Eventually I accepted Jesus as my savior, and I have a RELATIONSHIP with him. The reason I go to church is to associate with others who have a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus/God/Jehovah, but I don't need to go to church to have this relationship. The church helped me to understand how to have a relationship with God, but talking to him is not conditional upon going or belonging to a church.

Keep reading the scriptures and praying, he will answer you.

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Major WTS Prophecy goes down to defeat !!!

by Amazing in

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many here may recall that the watchtower society has published much material on the prophetic role of the united nations ... specifically, the united nations is the scarlet colored wild beast, the "image" of the worldly 7 headed wild political beast ... it would be given life by the two-horned dual world power of britain and america, the "lamb-like beast spoken of in revelation ... this "image" beast would be given power to rule one prophetic hour over the nations as they subordinate their national sovereignty to it ... and so on ...

then ... after the creation of the united nations in 1945 in san francisco the wts interpreted revelation regarding the demise of the old league of nations to apply to a statement in revelation that this "image" beast would be revived in the form of the united nations ... seemingly, the wts was on to something ... and for the next 45 years (until about 1990) the watchtower published anything and everything they could to make their interpretation stick with respect to how deep in the time of the end they believed we were living in ... then, about 1990, the watchtower society joined the un as a member ngo ... a significant departure from their previous stand on political neutrality ... and ... hatred of satan's old system of things ... certainly, since we are nearly 90 years into the last days of this wicked system we would expect the un to be in control or at least taking the lead ...

so, now ... where do we stand as of march 19th, 2003?

aunthill

"When Ezekiel sees another doing something"

Huh!?

No wonder I was confused while I was in the bOrg.

Cognitive dissonance and all that, became so great I had to get out.

Aunthill

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Alternative pets?

by DanTheMan in

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well, i don't have the most active or exciting life, so i've been thinking about getting a pet to liven things up a little around the homestead.

dogs?

too much commitment, also high ownership expenses.

aunthill

The hedgehogs are way cool! But I think a big orange striped tom is very a sexy pet for a single man. You'd have to get him neutered, otherwise he'd be out cattin' around all the time - but a great pet all the same.

I agree, who would want a woman that didn't like a man with a cat. Speaking as a woman, I wouldn't ever date a man who didn't like cats. If a man (or woman, for that matter) doesn't like cats, who knows what other neurotic tendencies he/she may have?

Aunthill

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Going To A Luau Is Considered "A Conscience Matter Before Jehovah God"

by minimus in

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the april 8, 2003 awake states:"a specific gathering to which the word luau is applied may or may not be appropriate for a christian to attend.

as in all aspects of life, christians should make decisions that will leave them with a clear conscience before jehovah god.

" so, in case you are asked to go to a luau, you really should consider if there's any religious or spiritistic overtones and recognize that the origin of the luau is pagan.

aunthill

If I remember correctly (it's been a lo-o-o-o-ng time) everything is pagan, or dangerous. As a 45 year old, never married (no children, goes without saying) elder warned, "if anyone gets hurt, you could be BLOOD GUILTY! " And this was talking about a roller skating party for the kids! This was said from the platform at a circuit assembly.

In our city, we, and the kids, weren't allowed to have any fun - it is unbelieveable the kinks the dubs will put in anything that smacks of having a good time.

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Need help with the Trinity

by dins in

i have been talking to a coworker of mine about religion and it's been rather interesting; it involves accepting christ into your heart as your saviour.

another thing is the trinity.. is there anything that any of you have found in the bible based on these beliefs.

i keep reading scriptures about god being one, and christ his son but then my coworker insists they are one in the same.. how, if anyway.

aunthill

Hi Diana,

This was a real sticking point for me, too. aChristian did a good job of breaking it down into digestible bites. The scriptures from artful are probably really good, too, especially the ones in Revelation (alpha and omega), but after 25 yrs in the bOrg, I can't take looking up too many scriptures anymore.

I recommend getting in touch with Randy Watters at freeminds.org, and requesting his tape on the Trinity. Hearing him talk about the scriptures in the OT, especially Isaiah, was a real eyeopener for me. I was driving in my car and had to pull over to the side of the road because I was crying so hard! Also, if you have the opportunity to go to a Seder ("passover" as celebrated by the Jews) grab the chance. Generally there are Seders put on by Christian churches near Easter, or if you have any "observant" Jewish friends, they might let you attend theirs. There is a ritual in the Seder which has a definte reference to the Trinity.

Good Luck!

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Should we let 13 yr. old daughter go with JW sisters and husbands?

by Robotnomore in

my wife and i resigned from the wtbs last year.

we have a 13 yr. old daughter left at home.

we have 2 married daughters that have nothing to do with us but want to associate with their little sister.

aunthill

I agree with xjw- "Be afraid, be very, very afraid." Children this age, and she is a child, are entering the rebellious age, and think that the old fogey parents don't know anything. Your older daughters are closer to her age than you are, and she probably thinks they are cool. My suspicion is that the older sisters are looking to continue the brainwashing. Supervised visitation at your home only.

Let her have a normal life - my kids never did and I sincerely regret that.

Aunthill

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ADAM AND EVE CREATED SAME YEAR says Jehovah's channel:

by garybuss in

adam and eve created same year says jehovah's channel:.

insight book #1 p. 772 eve .

when adam was 130 years old, eve gave birth to a son whom she called seth, saying: "god has appointed another seed in place of abel, because cain killed him.

aunthill

So let me understand this: When Eve was 130 she gave birth to Seth - then had MORE children after that? When a baby girl is born, she has a finite number of eggs in her ovaries which generally last 40 years +/-, when those are gone - no more babies! So did Eve have really humungous ovaries to have children at 130 and beyond? Or did she just generate more eggs like men do sperm?

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Were You Depressed Because You Were A Witness?

by minimus in

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it seems that many people here have been greatly depressed because they were or still are jehovah's witnesses.

what about you?

aunthill

I can't say I was always depressed, but I felt constantly guilty, so maybe that counts as depressed. I am not a high energy person by nature and I worked full time, had 3 kids and an unbelieving husband. Getting out in field service was a major undertaking, let alone trying to get myself and 3 kids to meetings 3 times a week, and trying to be the "perfect" wife, i.e., cook dinner even on meeting nights, etc. It was a major trauma to the Ministry School overseer when I told him I was resigning from the school. He tried to give me assignments after that, but finally gave up after the third time I told him 'NO!'

Thank goodness none of my family were in the "truth" and my children were delighted to be out. I did lose a couple of "friends," but since I was irregular in meeting attendance & field service, I was "marked" as "weak" and a "bad association" as were my kids.

Very, very happy to be out!

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Forbidden Pleasures ......

by BobsGirl in

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friends

this morning on the way to work, i burst into song.

not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".

i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.

aunthill

Oh, my goodness - there are so many! Singing the national anthem; pledging allegiance to the flag; registering to vote and voting; throwing my husband a suprise 50th birthday party (I needed help, I couldn't remember how to have a party.) Singing Christmas carols and putting up a tree, shopping for Christmas presents and decorations. And, (drumroll) my final act of rebellion - GASP! - giving BLOOD.

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Going door to door in extreme weather

by JH in

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this morning as i got up, it was 0 f outside.

this morning at 9 o'clock as usual the same witnesses will go door to door at this temperature.

i already saw them going door to door at -25 f. i wonder what it would take for them to say it is too cold or too hot to go out in the field service?

aunthill

I can't believe I used to go out in 110 heat! And that was before everybody bought and carried bottled water. I really liked going out with one young pioneer. He would knock on doors for about 45 minutes then suggest we all go for a cold drink, which would take about an hour. Then knock on doors for another 30 min. and call it a morning. Mind you we counted the whole time including the break as service time!