many have argued here if god knows all.
some say no....or he would have to have known the outcome of his creation and he wouldn't have continued.
he chose not to know.
Gumby,
I am a bit concerned about things I have found out on this forum concerning the Bible. I suppose you will say that you only want to converse with people who believe the Bible 100%. However, if anyone reading this can remember what was said about the fact that people living before the time of the book of Genesis worshiped a God called Jehovah, I would be grateful for further information. I have read so much lately, I am beginning to forget where I read it.
xxR
i was just wondering what some people's favorite scriptures are.
one of my favorites is .
matthew 7:1-5 .
I have always loved John 8:32 "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
Now it is beginning to make sense.
xxR
what are some of the stupidest comments made in the watchtower, or by a circuit overseer or elder that you've never forgotten?
the one about" the rapist being human" too, ranks right up there....like we're supposed to feel bad for him?
Bathory,
If we are to see God as a loving, forgiving, compassionate being, the God of the WT is not a person I want to know. I am sure so many people agree with that. A God that is forever looking for faults, forever keeping a tally of hours, forever watching who is absent from meetings etc - I'm sorry - but I don't want to know. I have many issues going on in my life - God understands them - he doesn't judge me or find fault with me which is what everyone in my KH does. How is being hateful, spiteful and vindictive showing Jehovah's spirit?
Just my view.
xxR
for 36 years i preached the 'good news of the kingdom established in 1914'.
jehovahs witnesses believe and declare that the kingdom was established in the heavens in 1914, they persist in preaching this good news of the kingdom.
*** w89 8/15 13 opening up the way back to paradise ***.
Jst2laws - what do you think Jesus meant when he said in Matt 28 that we should make disciples? Also, what about Matt 24: 14 which says we should preach throughout the earth? I am not having a go at you - I am just curious and want to know how to answer people that ask me the same thing.
xxR
PS - What is "a Trail"? You said in another thread that I may be part of "a trail". I am a bit worried as I feel the elders are ganging up on me.
xxR
what are some of the stupidest comments made in the watchtower, or by a circuit overseer or elder that you've never forgotten?
the one about" the rapist being human" too, ranks right up there....like we're supposed to feel bad for him?
last night - my 'Shepherding visit' - one elder said:
"You have been such a good example to everyone - why throw it all away and jeopardise seeing Claire and having your family reuinited one day?"
He was talking about Claire (my daughter, died 12 years ago), and the fact that I hate so many elders for persecuting my other daughter!
Nice organisation!!!
xxR
my 1st grandchild finally arrived yesterday, the 27th!
she's the 1st child in our family born outside "the truth" in 67 yrs.
and she's cute if i say so myself!
Moreisbetter
I can definitely vouch for what everyone has said - grandchildren are just as precious as your own children. I have 2 - a grandson and a grandaughter - and I love them just as much as I love my children. You must be so proud - treasure every minute of this time.
xxR
PS - did you say this is the 27th? Wow! Some feat!
rule no 1 take your wap mobile phone and scan the internet no2 enthusiastically volunteer to do car park duty with one of your spiritually weak friends no 3 when all else fails say your saved and believe in the trinity and you wont have to go any more
One brother I knew used to wear dark glasses at the KH and sit at the back - nobody ever knew he slept through the whole thing every time!
I am going to use a tip from Blondie and start using the time to do my own Bible study - nobody will be any the wiser - they will think I am such a spiritual sister and all those elders visits are paying off at last
xxR
november 15, 2002 wt page 9. christians need one another.
ephesians 4:25: "we are members belonging to one another.".
introduction.
Blondie,
I didn't get this until after the meeting but I still did what you said - I made my own notes and everybody thought I was making notes on the public talk.
Also, during the WT, I was able to see through a lot of the garbage myself. I wouldn't have thought of doing this if it hadn't been for me finding this forum and seeing your breakdowns - thank you so much - you made an unbelievably dull meeting bearable
xxR
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just a quick question...how many elders normally on a jc?
i thought three; but when i met with the elders there were two.. thanks,
What about 2 elders and an MS coming on my 'shepherding' visit! I never heard of that before. I know that sometimes an elder takes an MS with him to train him - but I had 3 last night - all in their black suits with their big briefcases - looking at me menacingly!!!!!!
my dad has no idea how to use a puter let alone get on the net.. so i rang him up just now...and told him what i've been up to...about this site and all, and how it's helped me found out a whole lot of information, usually hidden from the r&f and how some ex jw's are doing a really great job, by staying on the inside and doing what they can to provide info to expose corrupt dealings by the gb....he was flabbergasted...and i might add very impressed,,,lol isn't that cool?.
well i told him there are spies everywhere now, and the wts is really starting to feel the affects...pity the net wasn't around years ago huh guys?
anyway..to cut a long story short....i asked him during his time as the po in his cong.
ER,
Is your Dad still a JW? Is he still an elder? Were you an elder? You must be very brave if he is still in the organsation. He wouldn't 'turn you in', would he? I am still pretty guarded when I speak to JWs just in case - some of them are pretty sneaky. I mean, I have heard so many stories on this board where people are rejected by their own flesh and blood - just goes to show you don't know who to trust.
xxR
