once again, whomever you are, you are too chicken shit to talk to me directly.
i am so angered that you once again, although i gave you my # and email address with which to contact me, have decided to take information that i have posted directly to the elders.
again, werent you supposed to come to me???
pr_capone,
I really feel for you. It is horrible to have someone you trust betray you. Some people really stink. They may think they are Christians - they are not! They are sad little gutter-snipes who really need to crawl back under the nearest stone.
I am with you in mind and spirit - don't let these low-lifes grind you down - life is so boring for them - they have to get their excitement from the likes of you and I.
xxR
someone posted on another thread a comment that i found interesting.
something like once you find out the truth about the 'truth' its impossible to stop there and not question everything as far as religion and the existance of god.
i'm sure most of us that were raised in the watchterror org and have found out that we were decieved our whole lives have examined this subject at some point.
Francois,
I am inclined to agree with much of what you say.
But what would you say to those who say that the Bible has come through so much destruction, hatred, opposition etc etc. They say that it is a miracle that we still have it as we do. How could a book come through so much opposition? Why is it still here? Why do we have the Bible if it is false? Why is it the most widely translated book? What makes it so special? Why did people die for it?
I am very open-minded, despite the above, and would love to hear everyone's comments
xxR
actually due to a couple of crossed wires on my part we nearly missed each other, but thank goodness we didn't.. we ended up in a pub on the river (thames), and we talked and talked and talked and talked..... you get the drift.
lol.
what a lovely lady mum is though.
I really wish I could have been there, Mr & Mrs NW.
Love
xxR
i was married for 15 years to a j-dud, she ran off, got df'd, boyfriend went to jail, she was reinstated, poisoned the j-duds against me and here i am.
i won't do that again!
cost me an early retirement and years of grief with my daughter, now 18. anyone have a thought about the institute of marriage j-dud style.
I think it is sad that JWs say there are 3 people in a marriage, the couple plus Jehovah. This is a lie!
In reality, there is also the body of elders, their wives, Ministerial Servants plus wives, the PO, CO, DO, BO(ok - I made that one up) and whoever else they include. Too many people for my liking! No wonder, in an organisation that is supposedly different to the world, they have just as many failed marriages as the rest of the world. If JW husbands and wives thought more of their partners than they do of the society and what the elders expect etc, more marriages would succeed.
xxR
today i spoke with mr & mrs nightwarrior for the first time.
i can honestly say they are the most honest, genuine and wonderful couple around.
if there are any people out there who don't know who to turn to, turn to these people - they are the best.. i also spoke with 'mum' yesterday from the us.
By the way, my email is [email protected]
xxR
today i spoke with mr & mrs nightwarrior for the first time.
i can honestly say they are the most honest, genuine and wonderful couple around.
if there are any people out there who don't know who to turn to, turn to these people - they are the best.. i also spoke with 'mum' yesterday from the us.
Angharad,
Just a quick thank you and a query.
How does one go about donating to the upkeep of this site if they do not want to give their full details - eg. credit card?
Is there I way I can donate and remain anonymous (especially at the present time with everyone on my back) such as a postal order or something or some other means? I asked this before on another post but I think it got lost amongst all the replies.
I fully realise that without courageous people like you and Simon, people like me would be floundering and wouldn't know which way to turn. You are both true diamonds.
Love
xxR
today i spoke with mr & mrs nightwarrior for the first time.
i can honestly say they are the most honest, genuine and wonderful couple around.
if there are any people out there who don't know who to turn to, turn to these people - they are the best.. i also spoke with 'mum' yesterday from the us.
Thank you for your kind words and support. Husband at work so I am 'safe' to post.
I have been thinking a lot about what you all said - I don't want to change my screen name just to please some people.
My 'friend' has been having doubts about the society for some time. Her husband and two teenage sons are not JWs, so she is lucky in a way. We have looked at this board together over the past couple of months and it was only last weekend I told her I was rebel. She said she mentioned it to my husband because she felt guilty knowing and thought he ought to know.
Hubby looked at the board (for all of 2 seconds) - and said I was the lowest of the low IF I carried on posting. Well, I am going to carry on. I don't think I have done anything wrong. He hasn't turned me in to the elders, although if he ever does, I don't really care. Sarah ('friend') may well inform on me - I don't know yet. But I am sick of living my life in fear of what other peole think. I hate this control and I am damned if I am going to let this organisation have any more control over me.
Sarah is pretty weak and I think she has the hots for my hubby (I have many reasons to believe this). Well, to be honest, although this may have bothered me some years back, now I just feel sorry for her. She wants out of the organisation but doesn't have the guts to do anything about it - another victim of the cult.
My husband isn't all bad - he is just so 'in' the 'troof' that he cannot see the wood for the trees. I hope I can make him see that this is not the one and only God-chosen organisation, but deep down, I doubt it.
I love each and every one of you for giving me the love and support that was always missing in all my years as a JW. You are such a fantastic bunch of people and, although I only know you via this board, you mean more to me than I can say.
Much Love
xxRoz
today i spoke with mr & mrs nightwarrior for the first time.
i can honestly say they are the most honest, genuine and wonderful couple around.
if there are any people out there who don't know who to turn to, turn to these people - they are the best.. i also spoke with 'mum' yesterday from the us.
Today I spoke with Mr & Mrs Nightwarrior for the first time. I can honestly say they are the most honest, genuine and wonderful couple around. If there are any people out there who don't know who to turn to, turn to these people - they are the best.
I also spoke with 'Mum' yesterday from the US. She is really something - what a lady!
I am sorry. but I will not be able to post here very much. My husband has discovered that I am 'rebel', on this board - he was told by a friend I confided in - DO NOT TRUST ANYONE!!!
My husband thinks I am the lowest of the low and he is very angry at the moment. I can't contact you guys for a while.
xxR
i have just had news that my jw daughter-in-law has been told that her baby, she is expecting in july, has a 1 in 400 chance of being downs syndrome, 3yrs ago her brothers wife also had a downs syndrome baby.. in 4 wks she will have another scan that will confirm this.
at this moment in time i can't find the words to express how i feel as my thoughts are towards my son and his family at this time.
i do know that all babies are precious no matter what happens, they also have 2 boys 1 of which is rebellious towards being a jw he says he hates jehovah, so life is difficult for him as my son is extremely strict with him, and now the news that their baby maybe born with downs syndrome must be awful for them.. has anyone here had to deal with something like this,and what, if any are the wts views on this sort of thing.
QCA1 - please do not panic. You say that this baby has a 1 in 400 chance of being Downs Syndrome. Please do not think I am being heartless - I mean well.
This child is precious. Whether it is Downs Syndrome or whatever, who cares. This is a human life. a valuable life. Many people have been born 'normal'; - think about Stalin and Hitler, to name a few. Would you rather have a son like Hitler, or a true, loving son?
Please -take time to think - all children are a precious gift - I love my children (and that includes a Downs Syndrome child) I love all my children equally.
Love
R
if anyone in the n ca area needs a wedding minister, i'd like to offer my services to any on this board.
i'm totally non-denominational, & only charge a small fee on a sliding scale to cover my costs, i mainly do it because i enjoy it, i mean hey, at least i can use the public speaking ability that i gained as a jw!
go ahead & pm me, if'n anyone is interested.
I have often wondered this - how do you go about getting registered to perform marriages? I have heard so many stories - eg. a captain at sea is always able to perform a marriage etc etc. How did you go about it? How comes you can perform marriages (this is directed to avishai and Trauma_Hound - what do you have to do to be able to marry people?
xxR
