CyrusThePersian

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  Are You a Closet Apostate Weenie?

  by Farkel in

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  you count 10 hours per month but havn't even mentioned your beliefs to a non-dub in years.. you underline your study articles at random and write fake notes in the margins.. you smoke joints to get through meetings, field service and assemblies.. you're secretly banging an elder's wife.. you stuff monopoly money in the contribution box.. you keep your eyes open during prayer and giggle.. when everyone else says "amen" at the end of a prayer, you whisper "what bullshit.".

  you have a copy of crisis of conscience in a box buried in your back yard.. you play with an ouija board and watch smurf cartoons when no one is around.. you think "thriller" was the great music video ever made.. you read comic books in the kingdom hall bathroom during meetings.

  when questioned about your long time spent in the bathroom, you whisper "i'm constipated.

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  You put all your porn video in Watchtower video jackets.

  Darn!! I wish I had thought of that! No one would have ever thought to look there!

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  So, my mother is coming over today because evidently my "thinking is not...

  by cognac in

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  the norm"... .

  anyways, i write this on a laptop during the wt, lol.. ps.

  while also sipping coffee (i'm sitting out back) lol.

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  To simply say I don't believe it. There's no debate.

  Very nicely put.

  I like that.

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  So, my mother is coming over today because evidently my "thinking is not...

  by cognac in

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  the norm"... .

  anyways, i write this on a laptop during the wt, lol.. ps.

  while also sipping coffee (i'm sitting out back) lol.

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  The whole argument was that I didn't believe that 5 or 6 billion people are going to die at Armagheddon... My thinking was not "normal"...

  Tell that to a psychiatrist, see who he thinks is normal!

  According to my dictionary, normal means: "conforming to the standard or the common type, regular, usual, or natural"

  I would say that hoping for the deaths of billions of your fellow humans is neither normal or natural

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  SO did you buy your Girl Scout cookies...

  by zeroday in

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  i'm sitting here enjoying a box of samoas...that's right i don't just eat one i eat the entire box...

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  I bought a couple of boxes of the Trefoil shortbread biscuits from some Girl Scouts who set up a stand in front of the supermarket..

  Yummm...

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  So, my mother is coming over today because evidently my "thinking is not...

  by cognac in

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  the norm"... .

  anyways, i write this on a laptop during the wt, lol.. ps.

  while also sipping coffee (i'm sitting out back) lol.

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  What is "the norm" anyway?

  Most of the 6.6 billion people who live outside the Kingdom Hall believe that their thinking is just fine, thank you!

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  Absurdity in the Bible

  by darth frosty in

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  not to diss anyones beliefs, i thought this was humorous.. .

  absurdity in the bible .

  if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.--1 cor.14:38 .

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  All those who would posit that the creation account is "poetic" and "not to be taken as scientifically accurate" need to remember that the Bronze Age sheepherders who read this stuff took it quite literally.

  If the Bible said that God created light before he created the Sun, then by golly, he did!

  If the Bible said that God created the Earth before the Sun, then by golly, he did!

  If the Bible said he did it all in six days, then...well, you get the picture.

  In fact, the Genesis account of creation was taken as literal by most Christians all the way until the nineteenth century! It was only when modern science proved that the creation account was bunk that religious apologists started their argument that the story is not literal.

  You would think that an all-powerful God could have told the truth about the formation of the earth in a way that would not have been confusing to those ancient peoples and downright wrong to us.

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  People Meant To Live Forever

  by choosing life in

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  i was thinking about the reasoning the watchtower used as a proof that people were really meant to live forever.

  they said that because our cells continually replace themselves, we really were made to live forever.

  they even went so far as to say scientists could not figure out why this process didn't go on forever and were puzzled by this.. then i realized that all animals have the same mechanisms in place, yet the witnesses say they were not meant to live forever.

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  I would say that human beings are not designed to live forever and I'll tell you why.

  It's because of our teeth. After our baby teeth fall out, we only have one set of teeth. Our skulls are not designed with any provision to grow new ones. What happens when our teeth wear out or decay? We wind up having to get dentures or just gum our food, right?

  If mankind were to live forever, God would have to miraculously redesign our skulls (to correct a design flaw, perhaps?) so that we could grow new teeth, or miraculously make it so our teeth never wear out.

  Either way, it shows that we are not, at least at this moment, designed to live forever. We are, just like any other animal, "designed" to be born, to live, to grow old, and to die.

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  Two endings for book of Mark - Proof of editing in later years?

  by gaiagirl in

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  i recall that the nwt used to have both a "short" and a "long" ending to the book of mark.

  apparantly, by the time of the oldest existing manuscripts, (a century or two after the time of first writing if i recall), more than one version had already come into being, and were being used by christian congregations, and these are what have come down to us today.

  now, in the 21st century, the wtbts is unsure which ending (if either) is the correct one, so they hedge and offer both in their printed bibles.. does this not constitute evidence that the books of the bible were heavily edited from their original form even in the early centuries?.

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  Another school of thought is that Mark's abrupt ending was intentional.

  All through the book, Jesus' disciples are portayed as lacking understanding and frankly, a bit dense. They could never understand what Jesus meant by his need to die and be resurrected, all the way to the end of the book. But Mark's readers do understand because Mark explains it to them. Mark shows Jesus as being misunderstood by his followers and then his followers not knowing what to do after his death, even depicting the women as fleeing from the tomb and telling nobody anything.

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  The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories

  by RunningMan in

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  over the years, i have posted all of the chapters from my atheist's book of bible stories on this site.. however, since the original posting, many of the chapters have been polished and updated.. the complete book is now available for downloading, if anyone is interested: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qwpjol.

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  You emailed this book to me a couple of years ago and I thoroughly enjoyed it!

  You brought out a lot of things about the Bible that a lot of critics of the Bible have never talked about before, like the mathematical absurdities in the Bible.

  I still think you should expand this work and get it published in book form. I bet that some publisher like Prometheus Books would publish it.

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  Watchtower 2008 dumb logic= "Belief in evolution makes you an orphan."

  by Witness 007 in

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  watch, feb 1 2008 p.4 "if we really are the product of evolution and there is no creator, the human race would in a sense, be an orphan.

  mankind would have no source of superior wisdom to consult- no one to help us solve our problems.

  we would have to rely on human wisdom to avert enviromental disaster, to solve political conflicts, and to guide us through our personal crises.

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  My answer would be:

  In the USA, man has enacted laws to regulate pollution and environmental damage. These laws have been proven effective in curbing pollution. Granted, there remains A LOT to be done, but man is trying. God has not shown the ability or willingness to do anything at all. All "God" has done is make some empty promises in a two thousand year old book. Why should I trust him?

  If you're an orphan, you have to make it on your own, which is what we hominids have had to do for the past couple of million years or so.

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