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  CALL TO ACTION: Write the United Nations!

  by seattleniceguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  most of us are familiar with the watchtower bible and tract society's association with the un as an ngo.

  this fact has been confirmed via correspondence with the un numerous times, notably in a letter received recently by one of our own members.

  for details and photocopies, see here:.

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  What the U.N. does not know is that the WTS views itself as a government; separate and not accountable to other governments. They have to exist in the midst of these other governments but they believe that their King will eliminate those other governments soon.

  They are like organized fleas on a dog?s back, praying for the death of the dog.

  They have their own Governing Body and branches in every possible corner of the globe; set up with the expectation of becoming the only government standing after a global conflagration.

  They have their own judicial system that operates independent of and in most cases instead of civil courts.

  They have their own education/indoctrination system. The individual JW is indoctrinated to look to the WTS first and the civil government last in every facet of life. They are taught to look with disdain on all political entities whether they be local citizen councils or the U.N.

  The WTS wants the world to see them as a harmless religion but they are a parasite government waiting for the world to collapse. So they can take over.

  Bazaar but true.

  I say we won't know if this letter campaign will work unless we send out the letters. No harm in asking. (as was already said)

  Loris
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  It's stuck and i can't get it up

  by kls in

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  2. friends

  as some of you know i had rotater surgery on my shoulder in oct. my insurance would only cover a few weeks of therapy.i do many of the excercise's at home but my arm is stuck.it will only go up half way and if i don't get it unstuck my doc.

  is going to put me in the hospital and as he said,put me out and crank on it.

  i hate hospitals and would appreciate any help or suggestions to unstick it.

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  Several years back I fell off a ladder and the doc determined that I had a torn totator cuff. The pain was intense. I could not move the shoulder without that awful pain. The doc said that to keep it from locking up completely I had to do the exercises. I forced myself to do the exercises even though I wanted to scream with the pain. Gradually the movement was less and less painful.

  I would not wish such pain on anyone. Hang in there, it will get better. ((((((KLS)))))))

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  How many are in the average hall now?

  by pc in

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  2. friends

  i always thought around 125 or so.

  i just asked my brother how many are in his hall and he said about 80. i thought that sounded very low.

  anyone have any info?

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  I left a year ago so my figures are old

  95 publisher cards

  less than 100 on Sunday

  less than 65 on Tuesday

  and that count includes infants and non-publisher children

  The Watchtower meeting is so pathetic it is embarrasing. The same five people raise their hands to answer. The rest are just there in body only.

  Loris
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  New HMO plan

  by Loris in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ten top indicators that your employer has changed to a cheaper hmo .

  (10) your annual breast exam is done at hooters.

  (9) directions to your doctor's office include "take a left when you enter the trailer park.

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  TEN TOP INDICATORS THAT YOUR EMPLOYER HAS CHANGED TO A CHEAPER HMO
  
  (10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.
  
  (9) Directions to your Doctor's office include "Take a left when you enter the trailer park."
  
  (8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.
  
  (7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.
  
  (6) The only item listed under Preventative Care coverage is " An apple a day."
  
  (5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.
  
  (4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out of network charges," is not a typographical error.
  
  (3) The only expense covered 100% is "embalming."
  
  (2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.
  
  AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED A VERY CHEAP HMO:
  
  (1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and duct tape.
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  the seven times of Daniel chapter 4

  by dustyb in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the model nebuchadnezzar was the definite direct object in the account.

  that definite object took the simple action of being cut down from the subject, god.

  thus the larger or antitypical fulfillment describes how god cut down satan's rule over the earth until seven times passed over him.

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/61750/1.ashx

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/62659/1.ashx
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  Michael Jackson "...The kid is not my son..."

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. friends

  http://entertainment.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4459,8503312%255e10431%255e%255enbv,00.html

  jackson custody twist.

  january 27, 2004 .

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  MJ was baptized, went in FS the whole ball of wax. He was put under pressure early on in his solo career to tone down the questionable lyrics or else. He chose to DA himself. I do not know the status of his siblings. His father never was and his mother still is a JW.

  My opinion is that the whole family is seriously disfunctional.

  Loris
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  The WTBS Inc. and ?.the iceberg

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the year 1984 :

  in the year 1990

  watch tower society?s publications

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  " Since the slave class was loyally doing the Master's work at his invisible return in 1914 there is evidence that it was entrusted with enlarged responsabilities in 1919'

  This statement really gets under my skin. In 1914 the loyal Bible Students were trying to figure out what went wrong with their departure to heaven. They all believed that Jesus had arrived in 1874 or there abouts. Nobody and I repeat nobody was looking for Jesus to return in 1914.

  Between the death of CT Russell and 1919 there was a whole lot of in-fighting and power struggles. Feeding sheep was last on the list.

  Give me a break!

  Thanks MacHislopp for another well researched expose.

  Loris
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  were there any psychopaths in your congregation?

  by badboy in

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  any comments?

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  My DIL She tried a couple of times to kill my son. She got away with it by saying that she was off her meds or the meds were the wrong strength. Finally my son woke up to her bs and left.

  I noticed too that the new ones in the cong were more often than not crazy as loons. Someone in our hall made the observation that we must be close to the end because Jehovah was now calling the mentally ill.

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  The WTS: Forsake all others before me!

  by Maverick in

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  2. friends

  i contend that the wts is it's own god.

  it is jehovah!

  and it tests the loyalty of its worshiper all the time.

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  Mary, I saw that Enterprise episode. I was floored by the similarities to JW land. I wondered allowed if the writer was an x-JW.

  Weird.

  Loris
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  2 questions

  by got my forty homey? in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1. is it possible to worship jehovah without a earthly organization, just on your own?.

  2. if jesus came to earth today would the wt society make him get baptized and then df him for apostacy?.

  i was just wondering this because i received a book yesterday from my parents called "draw close to jehovah" i skimmed through this book and found nothing new, same old rhetoric from the 80's.

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  1. The worship of God through Jesus does not need an organization. There is a danger when praise and or worship that should be directed to God becomes shared with an organization. That is idolatry.

  The approach to God is through Jesus not through a secondary mediator.

  An organization can serve a purpose, bringing together people of various talents and abilities but can become a dangerous thing if gone unchecked. The organization can become the end rather a means to an end.

  We should seek fellowship with other Christians (coming to this forum is one way). Matt 18:20 says "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst." (Hi JC)

  But the gathering or group ought to serve Christians not insert itself between fellow Christians and Christ.

  2. Jesus Christ would not submit himself to a ritual that puts an organization on the same level as himself and his father. They would not baptize him unless he agreed to answer YES to their silly questions.