Everyone needs to be validated sometimes. That's why atheists from the US bible belt complain about how they can be treated. It's not unique to Christians.
Telling us we don't need approval is easier said than believed.
Posts by Laika
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47Why do so-called believers need my approval or that of any atheist?
by Band on the Run inrecent posts from those who may mistakenly consider themselves "believers" demand a safe haven in this forum.
they don't like associating with atheists or someone like me.
of course, there are hundreds of thousands of sites for christian discussion already set up on the internet.
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Scratch a Christian and see the Intolerance under the Skin
by fulltimestudent ina bishop of the apostolic church (grandiose title, isn't it?
) in the cook islands, wants to ban local indians who are hindu's from celebrating their diwali festival.. he claims its blasphemy against the christian god, and that because the cooks islands is a christian country, no other form of worship should be permitted.. gotta love your average christian, don't you?
if they are banned or persecuted, they scream their heads off, but as soon as they control things they want to ban any alternative worship.. cooks bishop condemns diwali celebration as blasphemyupdated 15 november 2013, 14:52 aest.
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Laika
I am in full agreement with Tammy and unstoppable here. Just because you claim they are the average christian, it doesn't mean they actually are.
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Home schooled witness kids
by stillin insorry if i'm stepping on any toes here, but i haven't seen anything positive about home-schooling...at all.
the notion is that parents are taking advantage of the formative years to inculcate more worthwhile values while protecting their kids from worldly influences.
they end up with lazy, socially inept, illiterate duds who haven't a clue.
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Laika
Lol, the one homeschooled Witness I ever met didn't know the Americans had fought a war in France.
I'm sure some homeschooling is amazing but I can't imagine how a JW one would work.
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A Faders Guide to Field Service
by pronomono inas a fader, i'm working on a mental guide to field service.
because most of this is a mental exercise realizing that your new knowledge, the mental side of things, is what makes it so hard to preach after learning ttatt.
what presentations have you used in field service as a fader to preach the good news without preaching jw propaganda?.
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Laika
My last few times on field service involved standing outside a train station holding up magazines. Nobody ever took one or spoke to me. Success!
Actually, even that became too much eventually.
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Why study the Bible?New JW video and propaganda
by suavojr inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfnsn2yvc.
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Laika
I don't like the way the guy says 'the bible'
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Is JWN an unforgiving place
by usualusername inover many years i have looked at jwn.
in fact barely a day goes by without my fix.. .
it is a site of contradictions.. .
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Laika
I love this place, I think it's very forgiving. There are elders here who have disfellowshipped people, they are still welcomed, it's a beautiful community to be a part of.
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Honest survey question on effectiveness of 'apostacy'
by Simon init seems like lots of people have big dreams of 'destroying the watchtower'.
it's usually linked to a story of how they were wronged and want some revenge.
do these 'in your face' attempts to convince people that the truth isn't the truth really have an effect?.
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Laika
Even Internet apostasy is not that effective. More Witnesses left in the 90s than the 00s. Of course, I think it's very useful, it's just not going to be the thing that brings down the Watchtower.
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Gosh, what do you do with people like this?
by Julia Orwell inok i'm chatting on facebook with a guy who's studying with jws, who isn't yet an unbaptised publisher because he can't kick the cancer sticks.
now i don't believe in the bible anymore, but i say i do to get a bit of common ground with this guy.
it's a common attitude among jws.
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Laika
I like that you kept reminding him you were in for 14 years. JWs are so used to brazenly lying to people about their beliefs that they often forget to turn it off when they speak to people who know what they're talking about. It's really frustrating.
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The Current State of the Watchtower & The Cynicism of Soviet Communism
by cofty ini am reading a book by victor sebestyn called "revolution 1989 - the fall of the soviet empire".
if you lived through the astonishing collapse of communism in the late '80s i highly recommend it.. what has struck me is the description of life under communism in the six soviet satellite states of east germany, poland, czechoslovakia, hungary, romania and bulgaria.. here is a couple of paragraphs that really stood out to me as a possible parallel to the current climate in the regime of jw.org.. ---------------------------------------------------------.
once idealism or revolutionary fervour had disappeared - certainly by the soviet invasion of czechosloakia in 1968 - the system stagnated.
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Laika
Cofty, do you ever sleep? ;)
Interesting thread though. I do think there'll be a quick collapse, in the Congregations I know well once the current elders die off there is hardly anyone who seems capable of stepping in. I can't speak for the whole Organisation though.
Maybe serving where the need is greater will soon mean moving to the West?
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Bible study last night Keep yourselves in gods love Ch 15
by DS211 inlast night my wife and i studied with elder and started chapter 15 of the "in gods love book".
"for many people in todays world, work is anything but a pleasure.
how is it possible to see good for our work under such circumstances?
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Laika
It's because the printing presses at Bethel print in sections of 8 and 200 pages sounds more daunting, psychologically.
These are the kind of exciting things you learn on a Bethel tour.