Hi outlaw,
I'm in England which is 9 hours ahead of you. :)
Posts by Laika
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11Something to pay attention to, if you go to the Memorial...
by undercover ini'm cutting and pasting from one of my own posts from some timem ago.
if you're having to go to this thing tonight, pay attention to how the speaker explains the timing of events at the passover meal, and then compare that to what the bible actually says.... an oldie, but one of my better goodies, i think.... .
yes, it's time for that annual ritual...no, no...not the ritual of nibbling on crackers and sipping cheap wine, but the ritual of comparing wt teachings of how jesus instituted the memorial versus what the bible actually says.. current wt theology.... as cut and pasted from their own website:.
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Do you have all your WT literature? If so why?
by KateWild inmany on this board are still in and have all the literature.
do you read all your books regularly?
do you have old magazines that you have underlined and still keep?
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Laika
The only thing I have left is a now out of date NWT.
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Laika
The worst part was the invitation to study at the end. The speaker says that if we want to benefit from the ransom we have to find out God's rules, and we can do that by studying the bible with a JW, but he then said 'Jehovah doesn't ask for very much, there's a scripture that says' what does Jehovah ask back from you except that' and then there's a very small list, it's really not asking much'
So I found that scripture:
“Now, O Israel, what is Jehovah your God asking of you?+ Only this: to fear Jehovah your God,+ to walk in all his ways,+ to love him, to serve Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul,*+ 13 and to keep the commandments and statutes of Jehovah that I am commanding you today for your own good."
Really!? That's not a lot to ask! I can't do all that, surely that's the point of Jesus!?
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Laika
I went, and so much for love bombing, not one person spoke to me, not one!
The speaker at my memorial asked the kids which animal they'd like to pet. He told us to imagine petting a lion cub and getting a real bear hug which got a laugh from the audience. I'm quite amused that this was in the outline. I'm in London, UK.
The chairman also offered his prayer through 'our mediator, Jesus Christ, amen'
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Gorby's visit to the memorial 2014
by Gorbatchov insince a week ago, gorby was a little nervous.
last years memorial was the last meeting he visited at the local hall.
since then, they all were faders.
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Laika
Will you have to go again next year?
Not one person spoke to me, seriously, not one. I was thinking of doing some exJW activism but sitting around being ignored I got fed up and just left. Complete waste of time.
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Something to pay attention to, if you go to the Memorial...
by undercover ini'm cutting and pasting from one of my own posts from some timem ago.
if you're having to go to this thing tonight, pay attention to how the speaker explains the timing of events at the passover meal, and then compare that to what the bible actually says.... an oldie, but one of my better goodies, i think.... .
yes, it's time for that annual ritual...no, no...not the ritual of nibbling on crackers and sipping cheap wine, but the ritual of comparing wt teachings of how jesus instituted the memorial versus what the bible actually says.. current wt theology.... as cut and pasted from their own website:.
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Laika
I was there this evening and the speaker never mentioned Judas or the date, so it might not be in this year's outline. The chairman however offered the prayer through our mediator Jesus, but that's probably another topic.
Thanks for sharing though, still valuable. :)
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First year without Memorial
by sp74bb inmy first year after more than 20 years.... it seems strange.
happy fellings but at the same times feeling some loniness.. is your first one as well?.
veterans: how do you feel after some many years?.
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Laika
I'm at the memorial right this second! Seemed fitting to visit JWN right now. :) First meeting in 10 months and I feel incredibly grateful to be out.
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A point which virtually every JW will miss in this week's book study
by sir82 infrom this week's book study, the "draw close to jehovah" book, chapter 5:.
biologists have identified well over a million species of living things on earth; yet, opinions vary as to whether there may be as many as 10 million, 30 million, or more.. .
wow!
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Laika
Who are these 'some investigators' and what are there credentials? And what is a 'kind'? Are there dog kinds and wolf kinds or do they fall under the same kind? I'm very confused.
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What usually happens after the memorial?
by Frazzled UBM indo members of the congregation usually have a meal together after the memorial?
does the fact that my wife has decided not to travel across town to her filipino congregation and is going to the local one instead and wants to be picked up when it finishes at 8 pm mean that she hasn't been invited to a meal with her filipino congregation and that she is being socially excluded by them?
i think this is good news but i don't want her to get caught up with the local congregatin because i don't want them coming around to pressure her to attend when she is irregular.
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Laika
Nah, it's not that common to go out after the memorial, especially on a Monday.
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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO inanyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.
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Laika
Well this pees me off, I am now convinced you are absolutely right but I have already promised to go and I don't like to break promises. I wish you'd posted this sooner!