has this been changed?
i thought this might need a new thread.. the memorials i have heard about multiple ones noted the prayer ending with something like "jesus our mediator".. sams on another thread :.
nonjwspouse: sahs, so has it now been stated that jesus is only the mediator for the fds, not all the anointed as was previously?.
Hi nonjwspouse, as per our discussion the chairman at the memorial I went to offered the opening prayer 'through Jesus Christ our mediator. Amen' it was a mistake, and I wondered if anyone else in the audience apart from me noticed it.
It's a good example of how JWs believe anything the Society tells them, over and above what the bible actually says.
maybe a silly question, but i'm curious about this part of the story of christ's crucifixion, when the 1 thief challenges jesus to save himself and "us too" from their deaths, but the 2nd thief rebukes him and pleads with jesus... .
luke 23:42-43: and he said unto jesus, lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
and jesus said unto him, verily i say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.. .
one thing is certain... Jesus himself was not in heaven when he was dead. So either he was a liar or he did not meant the same day.
Meh, as often JWs miss the obvious part of Jesus statement here. Jesus told the criminal 'You will be with me'. So either he was a liar or he did not mean a paradise earth.
just to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
Public reproving someone is nasty, it's rarely right to shame someone in public. Don't think that it's ok because it's not as bad as disfellowshipping, it isn't.
as a "therapist trainee"(still have to take my license test) i worry about all of the religious people out there who might commit suicide if the rapture/armaggeddon does not materialize.
what if the bible is proven to be "a big fairy tale" will born again christians(bac) and jws kill themself?
i worry about some of my older jw relatives that have waited for armaggeddon for 50 years and are still waiting.
No, I don't believe or worry about that, I do however worry about the approach you'll take with any religious clients you might have.
maybe a silly question, but i'm curious about this part of the story of christ's crucifixion, when the 1 thief challenges jesus to save himself and "us too" from their deaths, but the 2nd thief rebukes him and pleads with jesus... .
luke 23:42-43: and he said unto jesus, lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
and jesus said unto him, verily i say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.. .
Are you talking about the JW understanding? I'm a little confused because you referenced the anointed, JWs believe this guy is going to be in paradise earth, and they say Jesus statement about 'today' means that Jesus was saying he was making this promise that day, not that he's giving the convict the benefits of the promise that day.
the governing body is powerful, but the holy spirit is infinitely more powerful.
if the wt ever changes, it will be because of a movement such as this.. .
but sanctify the christ as lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of you a reason for the hope in you, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.
That's a lot of events to happen since the memorial was less than 3 days ago. Next time you make up such an elaborate story I recommend giving it at least a week to post.
the just of the account, two people enter a city and can not .
find lodging.
an old man invite them to stay with him (levite).. this is so weird, all the men of the city come to have sex with.
So in other words people will go all willynilly
when there is no King, go berserk.
This is what the author of Judges is trying to convey, yes. You don't have to agree with his opinion to understand the one he has.
What kind of mental state were these people in. They needed a mythical
God a higher power to keep them in check..
As I've told you, the point to this story is that they were looking to a king to keep them in check, not a higher power.
So how did he decide which body part would be sent to the 11 tribes.
Who's he? If you mean god it doesn't say that god made the decision (or suggested it) If you mean the master of the house, I have no idea how he decided.
http://www.bpnews.net/42379/jehovahs-witness-prediction-spurs-evangelism.
jehovah's witness prediction spurs evangelism.
posted on apr 15, 2014 | by david roach.
"-- Without affirming the content of their faith, commend their religious commitment in order to build goodwill. "
Oh dear, where have I heard that before?
the just of the account, two people enter a city and can not .
find lodging.
an old man invite them to stay with him (levite).. this is so weird, all the men of the city come to have sex with.
"Well I can see from you folks comments, there is no reason
why this story was included in the Bible."
No, bella15 already told you, it's in the bible because the author of judges wanted to build support for a king by telling stories of what happened when there wasn't a king.
i m a little curious because i have hard to see that every single person has the interest to stand up and sing in the beginning and in the end of every meeting...... what will happen if you are interested in the so called truth, not to stand up and sing a song against your will?!
then, is it okay to sit down like normal when everybody else copy each other (stand up an sing a certain text/song) as parrots?.
I gave up singing a few months before giving up meetings. Noone mentioned it, but then I always stood up.
