But is it appropriate to judge past generations from the vantage point of the present?
Sure it is, if we can judge the Holocaust as evil we can judge the A Bomb the same way.
sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
But is it appropriate to judge past generations from the vantage point of the present?
Sure it is, if we can judge the Holocaust as evil we can judge the A Bomb the same way.
sorry for such a depressing question, but i was moved by a picture i saw of the consequences.
( a woman carrying her child) and i realised:-.
a) it was a civillian population.. b) i don't see how a nuclear holocaust can ever be right.. c) they could have bombed tokyo where all the generals lived but chose hiroshima.. d) the irony after the bombing america conceeded to many of japans terms.. your opinion would be valued..
I read a book about Nagasaki recently, painful read.
I agree with you, one of the greatest evils of man's history.
i get tired of using the argument of "the mystery of evil" to attack god but where are we when we see heroic acts of godly courage from great humans like dr. kent bradly and dr. nancy writebols wonderful works of love?
did you listen to dr. kent bradley's concern and loving compassion for west africa?
he's not angry superstitious mobs destroyed several make-shift medical facilities to treat victims of ebola, no, dr. bradly implored the world to "help save west africa".
Good story Fernando, faith at its best is when it inspires people to turn ugly things into something beautiful.
'Beauty will save the world' as Dostoyevsky said.
isn't going to be wonderful??.
not being there..
I got asked to go 3 times, my answers were: no, no and no.
i believe in god.
i don't believe he punishes or rewards people.
so by the same extention i don't believe any spirit beings can communicate with or influence humans.. many who do not believe in god though, have gone to fortune tellers.
I had a palm reading a few months ago, I was quite excited about it but then she got everything wrong and was a bit insulting! So disappointing.
so recently a governing body helper gave a part on the convention.
he said young ones who are saying and not financially ready should knock it off.
what conflicting advice.
I like to tell people I didn't go to college because I thought the world was going to end soon and it would not be a productive use of my time. It starts surprisingly good conversations.
i remember back in the day when i was a devout jw in the 90s elders would go to the hospital to try and see if a person took a blood transfusion.
i remember my cousin was having surgery after a severe car accident and if he did not take blood the doctor said he would have died.
the elder came to the hospital and badgered my cousin's wife until she told him my cousin did get some blood.
TD: "Elders are not supposed to judge the sincerity of repentance. If a person says they're sorry, then they're sorry."
Not that I'm trying to pick on you! But I don't think this is up to date either, did you ever see the new JC procedure videos released at the elder's school?
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked
i remember back in the day when i was a devout jw in the 90s elders would go to the hospital to try and see if a person took a blood transfusion.
i remember my cousin was having surgery after a severe car accident and if he did not take blood the doctor said he would have died.
the elder came to the hospital and badgered my cousin's wife until she told him my cousin did get some blood.
Yes, he was TD, poor guy. :(
FYI TD and sir82, here is the wording from the elder's manual 'shepherd the flock of God', under chapter 9, section 3, under the list 'Actions that may indicate disassociation':
Willingly and unrepentantly taking blood.
If someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual's attitude. If he is repentant, the committee would provide spiritual assistance in the spirit of Galatians 6:1 and Jude 22, 23. Since he is spiritually weak, he would not qualify for special privileges for a period of time, and it may be necessary to remove certain basic privileges. Depending on the circumstances, the committee may also need to arrange for an announcement to the congregation: "The elders have handled a matter having to do with [name of person]. You will be glad to know that spiritual shepherds are endeavouring to render assistance." On the other hand, if the elders on the committee determine that he is unrepentant, they should announce his disassociation.
Also under that list are: 'Making known a firm decision to be known no longer as one of Jehovah's Witnesses' 'Joining another religious organization and making known his intention to remain with it.' and 'Taking a course contrary to the neutral position of the Christian congregation.'
i remember back in the day when i was a devout jw in the 90s elders would go to the hospital to try and see if a person took a blood transfusion.
i remember my cousin was having surgery after a severe car accident and if he did not take blood the doctor said he would have died.
the elder came to the hospital and badgered my cousin's wife until she told him my cousin did get some blood.
Punkofnice was involuntary disassociated (not for blood, for attending a church)
I can't understand the legal benefit of forced disassociation for attending church services, but I'm no legal expert.
in a letter in the 2013 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body sign off with the words, "we love you all very much".
these words were later echoed by one of the governing body in an address to french jehovah's witnesses in july this year.
these words sound so marvellously compelling and heartfelt - goosebump inducing, even.. imagine the governing body wrote these words to you or expressed them to you in person- yes to you reading these very words.
'I love you too' then give him a hug.