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  Dealing with JW family

  by Laika in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a little update on my life: a few months ago i was sure i was going to be disfellowshipped as my mum told me that my dad had reported my apostasy to the elders.

  however, nothing has come of this so far in about 2 months and i am very relieved!

  i am not sure if it was because the report to the elders was just an empty threat to scare me back in, or because they reported me to their local elders and now that i am a member of a new congregation those elders decided they couldn't be bothered to pursue me.

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  JWs and War

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the scene, you're out for a walk with a jw, and somehow discussion turns to religion.. the jw says: 'i know jws have the truth because we don't go to war, members of other churches will kill each other if their government asks them to, but the bible says 'do not kill' and we follow that.'.

  how do you respond?.

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  Jesus and the universal sovereignty issue

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  compare: (http://m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102005142 - emphases mine).

  ... satan charged god with lying and implied that jehovah was unfair in not letting adam and eve decide for themselves what was right and what was wrong.

  after adam and eve sinned and as the earth began to be filled with their offspring, satan questioned the motive of all humans.

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  The Governing Body & honesty

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  taken from w02 2/1 pp.

  19-23 par.

  how do the anointed know that they have received the heavenly calling?

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  JW prayers

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  listen, i know many of you saw the word 'prayer' in the thread title and are just itching to write a post about how prayer never works, sorry to disappoint, but whether or not prayer works is not the point of this post.. jws do believe that prayer works, and as such, what they tend to pray about is, i think, quite revealing about their general attitudes toward other people.. i have heard thousands of public prayers by jws, some of you may have heard tens of thousands.

  i obviously cannot remember them all, but my experience tells me that never, or at least rarely (i guess there are always exceptions to the rule) would a jw pray for the solution of a general problem such as asking jehovah to help the homeless, asking jehovah to bring peace in a wartorn country, or asking jehovah to bring about fairness to the oppressed, except as such problems may effect other jws, or except by means of 'the kingdom', which is supposed to solve said problems by wiping out all those suffering them.

  they may pray for direct help for members of the congregation going through major problems, but i rarely hear a jw offer to say a personal prayer for someone going through a hard time.

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  Sparlock and memories of childhood

  by Laika in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was about 6/7 there was a talk that made reference to the violence of teenage mutant ninja turtles.

  when we got home, all my tmnj figures were packed up into a plastic bag and put away in the loft.

  at least they weren't thrown in a wheelie bin.. when i was about 13 there was a local needs (yes, a whole talk) on the evils of pokemon, complete with the statement that pokemon was short for pocket demons (not true) no more pokemon blue for me.. i remember explaining to my pe (gym) teacher, in front of my whole class, that i could not play for the football (soccer!

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  Bitter apostates

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witnesses often go on about apostates being spiteful and bitter.

  when you get cut off, shunned, or threatened with shunning just for the audacity of thinking differently, it's not surprising that getting angry at the witnesses is the reaction - it's like a self fulfilling prophecy.. but also, i recently posted an email from a 'friend' on this board who told me that everyone he'd spoken to about me said i had changed, become like another person.

  it didn't occur to him that the day before i told my parents i'd quit the religion just 3 weeks ago, i met him for lunch, we had a good time and he didn't know anything was up.

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  Atheism and the delusion of meaning

  by Laika in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the movie annie hall, written by woody allen, as a young boy, alvy's mother, takes him to see a doctor as he appears to be dealing with some kind of depression.

  when the doctor asks alvy what's up, alvy explains that he just found out the universe is expanding, everything will spread out and go cold and die, therefore nothing he does matters, so he is not going to do anything anymore.

  most people might see this as a joke, but i think woody is trying to make a serious point.. the point here is about meaning.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses, size, and the true religion

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lot of the arguments jehovah's witnesses make in favour of their religion can only work because they are a very small religion and are spread so thin.

  nowhere in the world do jws make up any kind of majority or even significant minority in any country or city.

  considering how jws would have to work with larger populations exposes these arguments, for example:.

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  'We are all scallywags, but God loves us anyway' - My story

  by Laika in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perhaps the most profound moment of my life occurred when i was sat in a car with my dad.

  we were travelling home and having a very jw conversation on the paradise, at least, it was until my dad slipped in one of those rare moments of honesty in the watchtower world:.

  that moment really hit me hard.

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