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  Watchtower Teach That Jesus Is A Spirit?

  by RevFrank in

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  many witnesses say that when jesus was resurrected he came back as a spirit.

  yet their own authority, new worlds translation of the holy spirit, state different.........."see my hand and my feet, that is i myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that i have.

  "(luke 24:39).

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  RevFrank

  Good point Star Moore, no where in scripture does the Bible say that Jesus was in a different body..That would be reincarnation...Scripture clearly states what Jesus was..His resurrection was His Body,,

  Read Luke 24: 16, then 31....

  The watchtower has tried to alter the word from resurrection to reincarnation....they did that successful with the JWs.

  Reincarnation clearly means after death one may come back in another body.

  Resurrection means coming back to life as one dies. Nothing changed, but to have a glorfied body, yet the same man. Jesus had all the power and glory of God.

  So in Luke 24:16 & 31, Jesus held their eyes closed until it was time.
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  Jesus+ Ministers+Heaven

  by RevFrank in

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  i had a friend call me the other day(monday).

  he asked me if jws feel they are ministers.

  then he told me to go to john 12:26,(nwths)..it reads....," if anyone minister to me, let him follow me, and where i am there will be my ministery also.

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  RevFrank

  Warlock.....get on topic :-)
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  Watchtower Teach That Jesus Is A Spirit?

  by RevFrank in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many witnesses say that when jesus was resurrected he came back as a spirit.

  yet their own authority, new worlds translation of the holy spirit, state different.........."see my hand and my feet, that is i myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that i have.

  "(luke 24:39).

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  RevFrank

  Many Witnesses say that when Jesus was resurrected He came back as a spirit. Yet their own authority, New Worlds Translation of the Holy Spirit, state different.........."See My hand and my feet, that is I Myself; feel Me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have."(Luke 24:39)

  (DICTIONARY)

  Resurrected= return from the dead

  Reincarnation= embodiment in a new form (especially the reappearance or a person in another form)

  So..what does the watchtower teach? Reincarnation or resurrection? The Witnesses teach that Jesus came back in another body....meaning reincarnation..And I was taught, Elders told me, that Jesus came back as a different person..isn't that reincarnation?

  the Hindu or Buddhist doctrine that person may be reborn successively into one of five classes of living beings (god or human or animal or hungry ghost or denizen of hell) depending on the person's own actions . That's reincarnation
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  Jesus+ Ministers+Heaven

  by RevFrank in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had a friend call me the other day(monday).

  he asked me if jws feel they are ministers.

  then he told me to go to john 12:26,(nwths)..it reads....," if anyone minister to me, let him follow me, and where i am there will be my ministery also.

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  RevFrank

  I had a friend call me the other day(Monday). He asked me if jws feel they are ministers. I said, yes. Then he told me to go to John 12:26,(NWTHS)..it reads....," If anyone minister to Me, let him follow Me, and where I am there will be my ministery also. If anyone would minister to Me, the Father will honor him."

  So I said, most JWs I know are ministers and what does that mean? He said Jesus is in heaven, right? I agreed. Then he remined me that ministers will be with Jesus in heaven, as the scripture stated.

  HE was right, yet the watchtower teach that the JWs will live on earth. Where Jesus is so will His ministers, also.
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  6-6-6 -vs- 9-11

  by breeze in

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  i guess the 666 notion is here?

  i wonder if something big is going to happen today.

  i thought that maybe the terrorists would hit the us again today.

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  666 or 6-6-66==June 6, 1966.....Well I was living in Santa Barbara on that day....
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  What years did the WTBTS society prophesy Armaggedon would come?

  by misspeaches in

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  i know 1914 and i know 1975.. if anyone can help it would be much appreciated.. for the first time in 3 years a witness i know wants to know my reasons for not attending meetings anymore.

  i want to have my facts straight.. or if anyone knows any good links already answering this question it would be appreciated.

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  As Blondie put http://www.freeminds.org/history/1975.htm that's why the watchtower doesn't like their own history What happened in 1975
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  Let cut JWs some slack on Christ's status. They might be right.

  by Spectrum in

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  the alternative light i have received regarding early christianity has made me wonder whether jws have unwittingly got it right regarding the status of jesus.

  a lot of strong criticism is made on this forum about jws sidelining of jesus in preference for jehovah the jewish god.

  they have been equated with judaism because of their lack of inclusion of christ in their worship as well as their draconian code of expected conduct.

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  RevFrank

  ok Spectrum......let me ask you this...Jesus told us that Satan the Devil was hte lier and killer from the very beginning...So do you disagree?
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  Michael Michael who the heck is Michael?

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  th jw's teach that michael was the name of jesus in his pre-human existance.

  then why the heck does the apostle john say that michael threw satan out of heaven in 1914???

  1914 was almost 2 thousand years after jesus pre-human existence!!

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  RevFrank

  This is so neat. Here's another goof the jws make when they try to say that Jesus is Michael.....Russell took---Michael-Jesus-- from the 7th Day-Adventists.

  The 7th Day-Adventists think it's because of Daniel. They, like the jws, assume that these are so. The same thoght applies as the jws think that Jehovah created Jesus to be a God.....
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  Pit & Locusts

  by RevFrank in

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  a few years back i was given a tract on the jws and their book on revelations....it quite neat so i created a web site on it...it's by peter barnes and he did good on it......

  http://members.fortunecity.com/frankraven/thelocusts.html

  it took me a few days to find it..it's still good today....

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  RevFrank

  A few years back I was given a tract on the JWs and their book on Revelations....It quite neat so I created a web site on it...It's by Peter Barnes and he did good on it......

  http://members.fortunecity.com/frankraven/TheLocusts.html

  It took me a few days to find it..It's still good today....
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  Judah Ben Schroeder NOT finishing law school

  by Seeker4 in

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  a few weeks ago there were a couple of threads about the wts and higher education, and some stated that judah ben schroeder (son of the late governing body member al schroeder) was attending law school at columbia university.

  i got an e-mail from a very reliable source today about some inaccuracies in those threads.

  here are some quotes from the e-mail, which the writer asked me to share anonymously on jwd:

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  RevFrank

  watchtower doesn't want anyone to go to a higher education. Why? Because they know that once you go to college you'll realize you'll need to defend the watchtower and you'll began your research and you'll find out, defending the watchtower and how much the watchtower disagrees with the Holy Bible...(not the new world translation of the Holy Scriptures)

  Higher education gives one an insite on many things. You learn and grow. You become enlightened and you know more. That's what companies need for you to know. You'll discover how to do the proper research on your topic...

  reguardless if you do the research on the watchtower in college or later in life, you'll learn that the watchtower does teach a different gospel.