Hey refiners, do you have a web cam, maybe we all could study with them!!!1
Downunderandout
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Je Hoovahs are studying with me!
by refiners fire in.
may god have mercy on them.
because i wont.edited by - refiners fire on 29 november 2002 19:13:7.
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When You Hear Someone Say "The Truth"...
by minimus inwhen a witness talks about a person not being "in the truth", does that get to you?
or if they self-righteously proclaim that "at least, they're in the truth and not worldly", does that push any buttons?
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Downunderandout
When I hear that phrase I get a put down feeling, sort of like they are being elitist, not that they are aware of what they are doing given they are under the influence of the wt and have been indoctrinated by cult practices.
DUO
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Great Tribulations Starts December 20, 2002
by proplog2 in2300 days from december 20 2002 brings you to april 8 2009. april.
8, 2009 is nisan 14 - memorial /passover.
daniel 8:13 "and i got to hear a certain holy one speaking and.
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Downunderandout
Oh yeah, "no one knows the day nor the hour, not even the son...." or something like that.
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New to board-1st post
by kril inmy last attempts at posting were to no avail so i'm just going to test this out first and they edit and post something else.-it worked.. i have been reading a lot of the material on this website and find most of it interesting.
i'm still a witness but have some questions about bible/doctrine that haven't been answered to my satisfaction.
it seems that when i discuss things with people (i.e witness elders) they more or less don't listen to my arguements.
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Downunderandout
Kril welcome
there are many persons here that have had some sort contact with the wt, ex-jw's, current active/inactive jw's and those with family and/or friends that are or have been jw's.
To leave or not to leave, now that is the big question, you will eventually arrive at your answer, many of us know how hard it is to answer and many of us have arrived at different conclusions. It's what right for you.
The final straw for me was the realisation that the wt is a cult and uses cult techniques on members so they remain loyal. It was a hard conclusion to arrive at as I had to admit to myself that I allowed myself to be 'sucked in'. But after chatting to others that had been through the same or similar things I felt better, and from then on I have been on an incredible journey free of guilt and the freedom to choose for myself.
Once again, welcome, enjoy
duo
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Downunderandout
Hi and Welcome Buffman,
I have found this site very helpful in dealing with all the issues we face, hope you will too.
DUO
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Downunderandout
Hi there JLOB
Welcome, tell us what's on your mind, or just ask questions or whatever
Duo
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Forbidden Pleasures ......
by BobsGirl inthis morning on the way to work, i burst into song.
not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".
i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.
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Downunderandout
U is naughty Beck
What I look forward to is when I finaly find my sould mate, not having any pesky chaperones, and not waiting until the weding day to find out that I might have made the biggest mistake of my life (apart from ever joining the wt).
DUO
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Japan Lost 589 Congregations
by metatron inthings must be getting tough for the 'number puffing' theocrats in japan.. .
3802 congregations (1999 yearbook).
3213 congregations (latest report).
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Downunderandout
Purple, I reckon you are right about the "cooling off thing" and then they will run a whole series of the big "A" being just around the corner.... blah blah blah
DUO
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SPECULATION.
by Blueblades inhere we go again!the wt.1/1/2003,page 6,par:2.the time that god has allowed for humans to experiment with self-government is about to end.
(speculation).in fulfillment of bible prophecy,his kingdom was established in the heavens in 1914.
(speculation) footnote,for a detailed discussion of bible prophecy relating to 1914,see chapters 10 and 11 of the book knowledge that leads to everlasting life.now here is where it gets interesting.
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Downunderandout
They (FDS) persist with the end is nigh theme so as to continue the envelopment of fear of the R&F and to develop fear in prospective jw's so they will follow. If they practiced what the preach, in relation to no speculating, then a "greater number would cool off" and their power would diminish, they wouldn't want that. It's sort of like a reverse "carrot".
DUO
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Will There Be A Final Issue?
by Stephanus inwhat i mean is, we keep seeing new issues emerge which highlight the hypocrisy, and some cases, the downright evil of the wathctower org, such as their fartarsing around with the blood doctrine, the un ngo scandal, ownership of shares in arms manufacturers, the paedophile cover-ups and associating with other religions in order to band together to secure continued "freedom of religion" from worldly governments.
will this steady flow of emabarrassing info about what they are truly about continue, or will it one day stop?
what is likely to be the final issue?
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Downunderandout
I don't know if there will be a final issue. Just look at the catholic church history, they are still going strong. Thw wt monetary value will most likely increase, as it does the leaders may become more greedy. There is a phrase " power breeds corruption".
duo