Posts by Nickey

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This is why I'm Disappointed....

by Nickey in

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it's a public board.

i was still a jw.

i came here looking for answers to my questions and doubts.

Nickey

I appreciate everyone's comments. I've taken some advice and don't intend on sending anyone here until I know they're ready... But I'm not the one to accept and tolerate half the stuff that goes on here... sure, alot of people do it. But, it doesn't make it right. And I've never been the one to sit quietly on the sidelines and hush it off.

I've been hated on for being a woman. Disrespected and slapped around.

I've been hated on for being a JW back in the day. I've been at the center of the jokes and pranks.

I've been hated on for being Black. Hell, I've been physically beaten by the KKK.

I never was an uptight JW, if that's what some of you assume. I never got baptized because I never fully agreed with what I saw and how they acted. But also didn't sit around and fantasize about all the things I could do to them when I got out. If anything, that makes me 10 times worse than when I was in.

People want to excuse and go along with it. But then complain when it goes too far or they see a hate crime or someone close to them getting hurt from it. There have been posters shoved in faces, objects thrown, cursing and jeering on the side, burnings of the buildings, things left on cars.... let that be a person's mother or child and then all of a sudden, the tide changes. Because after all, maybe that person was just upset and may have been hurt by someone the same religion, skin color, or whatever it may be.... Or does it all consist of how big or small the prank was that makes it any different?

Like integ said, I don't want my family or friends at the center of that... me going along with the verbal jokes or physical "light" pranks would make me a hypocrite. No matter the reason.

People can do and say as they please on here. But it's when people actually go and DO something offline that get's my blood boiling. For some to say it's not appropriate for me... I think it is appropriate for me to say something if this is a public board. And if people are upset over that... then that's just how it has to be then.

Like someone said, I just have to learn to skip over the nonsense and stick with the positive....

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Most witness's don't even look at the pictures in their books.

by Singing Man in

like the one of the little girl falling into a big crack in the earth, a picture of amagedon from the paradise book.

few witness's stop and ponder just how sick that really is to show kids that at a young age.

if anyone has that post it to this thread for others to see just how hurtful that could be for children of a tender age.

Nickey

The children are the main one's who look at the images... they are like sponges. And it sticks with you because I still remember. I think it contributed alot to my sleeping problems as a child... and even an adult.

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This is why I'm Disappointed....

by Nickey in

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it's a public board.

i was still a jw.

i came here looking for answers to my questions and doubts.

Nickey

I don't necessarily call for complete censoring. But going on KH properties and physically pestering people is where I see it as taking it too far...

Also, I don't equate "worldly" as being disrespectful and foul. In my mind, there is no "worldly". But there is inconsiderate, cruel, disrespectful... there are those terms for describing people. I've seen a few jw's act 10 times worse than any "worldly" person I've seen....

I don't go around coming up with pranks towards jw's, muslims, jews, or any other person practicing some type of religion. I don't go to churches, kingdom halls or mosques putting things on their property or destroying it... no matter who's it is, it's wrong. Somebody here actually felt proud to tell everyone they peed on their bushes.... That's where I shake my head.

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This is why I'm Disappointed....

by Nickey in

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it's a public board.

i was still a jw.

i came here looking for answers to my questions and doubts.

Nickey

sirona,

That's true and I agree with that. There are alot of good threads here and I use the search feature all the time.

I just needed to vent. I see this place more for Ex-JW's as well. And that makes alot of lurkers hesitant because they may not be ready to take that step in becoming an ex-jw. Everyone reacts differently. Some faster, some slower... It pulls alot of active JW's in because of the name and it's one of the first sites to come up in the search engines. That's how I found this place... off Google. With the assumption that it was a JW board before I caught on and started to read the threads and figure what everyone was talking about. And that's alot, because the only sites I've seen JW's go to without being called up on is the Official Watchtower site and "some" of the pro-JW boards.

I would hope this board would be a place for both ex-jw and active jw's to come together and discuss issues... that's more helpful and positive. But sadly, I don't see that. I joke around sometimes, but not when I know it can actually hurt people physically, emotionally, mentally.... in any way.

I'm not trying to bash everybody. I'm just highly ticked at the moment.

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This is why I'm Disappointed....

by Nickey in

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it's a public board.

i was still a jw.

i came here looking for answers to my questions and doubts.

Nickey

At what?: This Board

Why?: Look around

Yes, people can post what they want. It's a public board. But I often sit back and wonder where people's heads and hearts really are.

When I first came here, I was a lurker. I was still a JW. I came here looking for answers to my questions and doubts. I found that. But only after I dug through the jokes and snide talks. If I wasn't determined and headstrong, I would've quietly backed away back into the JW's and no one would've never known I was here. It takes alot to actually step forward and actualy post. That goes against everything you've been taught and "instructed" to do. And sometimes actually putting your ass on the line. Losing your family, being disfellowshipped. It spills over into your personal life and has real consequences.

It took me a loooooong time to slowly help someone in my family to open up and speak about their doubts. Giving small bits and pieces so as not to give them the feeling I had when the truth about "the truth" was dumped on me. I know that's not the way to do it. I recently started sending links of short articles to read. But they still have questions...

I thought for a bit.... should I? Yes, I did. I sent them here. Although I was hesitant, I went ahead and did so. Afterall, I spent a little over a year getting them to open up more and more.

No, they don't find answers. They find people being grimey and trying to come up with jokes to play on JW's.

They find posts about "What Rumor to start about JW's." with AIDS jokes. Or Christmas pranks to do at the Kingdom halls. And just flat out foolishness that does nothing but throw the JW OFF, get confused, scared and what not and REVERSE. Going right back to square one or NONE. "What scandal/gossip can I dig up today?" "What prank can I pull off.... let's put carved pumpkins in front the KH. Let's decorated the trees.... that'll piss them off." Some of that stuff is just LOW and childish. Why would you even take pleasure in acting like that? Bitterness? Anger? Boredom? Fun? Whatever the case, it becomes so self absorbed that nobody considers who's watching and contemplating. The consideration, decency and common sense has gone down the drain.

There goes the justification to say "Look how they act... I don't want to be an apostate." And they go right back in.

And now it has reflected on me in a bad way....... because I have to say, I was a bit ashamed myself for posting among it.

So now, we have a family member going back to studying with an "annointed" JW, who has spoken about concerns of me and why I'd want to post among people like that. Which leads to me getting the 3rd degree and now having to go up against damn near everybody. No peace. Full stress.

I've come to the conclusion... the negative far outweighs the positive. I'm truly disappointed and sick of half the behavior on this board. There are some nice considerate people here, I must say. But FEW. You know the one's who CONSIDER other people with kindess. Who don't sit around and think up every negative thing to do and say. Who don't think pranks on JW's are funny. Because they keep in mind that it isn't so much the JW themselves, but those at the headquaters/GB who are MISLEADING many people who genuinley believe they are doing the right thing. And they also remember that they were once in THOSE SHOES and know they wouldn't want to be disrespected and joked on. I know I didn't want to be, so therefore I'm NOT going to turn around and do the same thing.

So whatever... this probably means more fights and black eyes for me. And I owe it all to half of ya'll because I was stupid enough for thinking this would be a good place to start for answers and meaningful knowledge to someone who was seeking.... it happens to many others, not just to me. But that's the risk people take I suppose.

This place? Forget it. I don't know who's worse... Judgmental JW's.... or Vindictive Ex-JW's' and the instigators that snitch on the side.

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prince the witness???????

by proudassmonkey in

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why the heck is prince a jehovah's witness????

just curious.. melissa

Nickey

Influenced by Larry Graham. And that's just the decision he made... as well as many others.

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Holiday decorations on the Kingdom Hall

by NaruNaruChan in

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you know... last year i chickened out... but i'm thinkin there's these two trees in front of my old hall... and they look just like xmas trees... god, wouldn't it be funny if...?

if we had a mass movement and bunch of apostates went to as many kh in their cities and threw some decorations up?

i wonder if the dubs would think it's the end of the world!

Nickey

Whatever then... if you take pleasure in behaving that way. Float ya boat.

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Holiday decorations on the Kingdom Hall

by NaruNaruChan in

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you know... last year i chickened out... but i'm thinkin there's these two trees in front of my old hall... and they look just like xmas trees... god, wouldn't it be funny if...?

if we had a mass movement and bunch of apostates went to as many kh in their cities and threw some decorations up?

i wonder if the dubs would think it's the end of the world!

Nickey

Would it seem funny? To some. But it would seem more pointless and childish in my opinion. Making "wordly" people and "apostates" look even more foolish. That's just a vindication and makes it that much harder for people like me trying to help their families OUT.

*sighs* I wonder about y'all sometimes...

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Fires and Strikes, Oh My!

by patio34 in

well, after two weeks of every major grocery store here being on strike and the smaller markets are having trouble keeping up with the demand, now the sky is gray-orange and ash is everywhere!

i know, i know, i shouldn't complain because of all the poor folks being evacuated and some even losing their homes.

i'm not really complaining though.

Nickey

I woke up and noticed smoke in the sky. I knew there was a wildfire going on. But I didn't know it was coming all the way down to San Diego. I was seeing on the news that they're shutting down alot of highways.

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Caffeine addiction

by DanTheMan in

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are you a recovering caffeine addict?.

do you now avoid it altogether?.

how did you go about breaking the habit?.

Nickey

I use to drink alot of coffee a while back. I tried to go without for a week and got the worse headaches I've ever had. Started drinking coffee again and the headaches went away momentarily. Only then, the doc told me I had to stop drinking so much of it because it gave me palpatations every time I drank. I had to make a choice....

I still drink a cup a day. I just cut back.

Now SODA? That's way too HARD for me to do. I drink Pepsi all the time. I threw a fit when somebody bought me juice instead of my pepsi. I almost threw the cup saying I NEEDED my soda. How DARE they bring me some JUICE!

It is an addiction. It truly is... I knew it was when I tried to stop and couldn't.