Posts by Kagloo

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The WT versus hobbies

by Bonnie_Clyde in

someone already pointed out the 8-15-04 wt where a couple boxed their hobby items and put them away so they would have more time for spiritual pursuits.

however, when i saw the 8-22-04 awake i told me husband, "looks like it didn't take long to get that box out of the attic.

" on the front of the magazine there is a picture depicting a father and son assembling a model car.

Kagloo

Hi everyone.... Just a quick, personal thought about the subject under discussion...

I am very busy in the Truth... I am not a servant nor a pioneer... I just keep myself busy - doing what I can to try to be a genuine disciple of the Master, Jesus Christ. I study with several people and enjoy that very much - I do my bit to support the congregation in various ways and hey guess what? I have several hobbies too!!!!! I write and record my own music - I play keyboards and guitar, I listen to loads of new music (even though I am in my 50's now. Some of the new bands on the scene in the UK are great! The new Maroon 5 album is excellent!) I write books (9 to date!) and am involved in researching my family tree (Managed to get back to 1585 so far!!!) I take my eight grandsons out whenever I can....no not in the ministry... but for walks and to the cinema and just messing about in the park etc.... Life is not easy as I battle with what will prove to be a terminal illness - but I find time to get enjoyment from every aspect of my life. My advice to those who are hung up about whether to do this or that, whether to have hobbies or not is simple........ Get on with your life. Be balanced! Be Happy! Do what you want and serve Jehovah the best way that YOU can. You won't answer to any man in the final analysis. Be true to God and true to yourself.

Take care of one another...

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Do Jws really want to have a study??

by ellderwho in

this is the second time in a row the witneses have stood me up for a study.

i give my name and number, and nothing.

not a phone call notta.

Kagloo

Hi everyone...... As an infrequent visitor to the site I would just like to make a comment about the above subject...

During the last few moments of his time on earth the resurrected Christ instructed his followers... " All authority has been given me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations....., teaching them... "

I see that command as a great honor! No - I am not an elder, nor am I a pioneer, nor am I super-spiritual, i.e. I am just an ordinary bloke who loves the Bible and deems it a real blessing to understand the things that Jesus Christ taught. And in appreciation for that blessing I go out to search for people who want to know about the things that I believe. I have several on-going studies at the moment, and enjoy every single one. Is it hard? Too damned right it's hard! Is it worth it? Too damned right it is!

If those who came before me in the 1st century had not 'put themselves out' to teach others Christianity would have fizzled out within years. As it is they worked hard in teaching the things that Jesus told them to teach - even at the risk of their own lives sometimes, and I, for one, am proud to have a small share in the same disciple-making work.

In the past I have had the attitude that I didn't want the 'bother' of a study and in my 33 years in the Truth I have helped just few people to dedication. But now I have changed my attitude somewhat and I am more readily prepared to put the effort into my ministry to follow Christ's explicit command. Having been in 'both camps' as it were I can say (And it's just my opinion!) that making the effort if worth all the hard work.

What greater benefit could I have than studying The Living Word of God on my own and then with others? For me it's a WIN WIN situation that I am glad I am in.

I hope that everyone is well and wish you all a peaceful weekend.

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Love or Hate Field Service

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

how many of you went out in the field because you had to or because you wanted to?

if because you had to, how did you feel while doing it?

just curious.

Kagloo

Hi everyone!

Just got back to my PC and decided to take a look at the site to see if any responses had been posted to my view about the ministry...

I would imagine that most people that have been involved in talking about Jehovah to their contemporaries have felt much the same as we do sometimes... Noah was mocked. Moses was hated by his own people! Jeremiah was chucked in a well! etc., etc., Ad Nauseum....

And what about the Lord Jesus Christ himself? Who could have failed to see the goodness in the man as he went from village to village with his message about God's Kingdom? And he didn't just tell people about his Father he healed the sick, fed the hungry and even raised the dead! And what did his own people do to him? Much like the vast majority of people today they didn't listen - and some of those who were exposed by the truth he taught organised his murder and finally had him killed!

Yep! Which ever way I look at it I seem to experience much the same apathy and sometimes hatred in some smaller measure. But I'll tell you what.... I wouldn't change a thing! I am proud to be involved in the work that he started.

Oh sure I see some brothers and sisters playing games with their time... I've done it myself. But they're just human... and humans are prone to all sorts of weaknesses. And I guess that you could question the motive of others who preach... Maybe some are on an ego trip, maybe others are wanting to be noticed or doing it because they are encouraged (forced?) to do by parents, or because of peer pressure or for some other reaons, but by far the majority in my experience (33 Years since I was babtised) do it because they want to have some little share in the work that The Master did.

We all have our hero's - those who we look up to and try to emulate... For me my hero is Christ Jesus! He was brave, he was selfless, he was forgiving, he told the truth, he loved those who hated him and his message...And he gave his life for wretched men like me who in truth are not worth the price he paid. Yep! That's the role model for me!

And like I said in my last post... I will never regret having a share in the same ministry as Christ.

Cheers.

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Love or Hate Field Service

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

how many of you went out in the field because you had to or because you wanted to?

if because you had to, how did you feel while doing it?

just curious.

Kagloo

Re: Field Service.... Just a personal point of view.

For a long time... a very long time... I went on the ministry without giving it much thought... it was just something that we did! Sometimes I enjoyed it but others times I was just on automatic pilot!

But recently I have changed my view of the ministry altogether... it's no longer about hours or mags or books its about people, real people with whom I want to share the stuff that I have in my heart. It's about listening instead of talking all the time and hey guess what... I love it!

Now it's just me and my Bible... oh sure I still offer folks literature if they really want it. But more often than not I just listen and then talk a bit then listen a lot more and then share a scripture with them - if they want me to - and dignify them with the right to agree or not... then I leave them smiling - if that's possible... and I move on.

In my opinion the preaching work that I do is not primarily about Armageddon or destruction or about ramming my Bible down people's throats it's about doing the simplest thing that I could have been asked to do... listening and talking!

Before he went to heaven The Master said go and "teach people all the things that I have commanded you"... and that's what I try to do. Perhaps not everything I say to people will prove to be 100% but I think that most of it will.

Looking through some of the comments in some sections of this site I see so much hatred and negative things that I just wanted to offer my PERSONAL, and I hope positive point of view.

Even if I had lived 500 years ago I would still want to talk to people about Jehovah and about Jesus, and whether the end of this sytem comes now or in 500 years I am proud that I was able to have a share in doing the things that Jesus did.

Cheers.

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United Nations Press Release!!! (???)

by Frannie Banannie in

anyone heard about this un press release???

is this for real?

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/1/emw100794.htm.

Kagloo

How is it that the FORMULISM.ORG website is now unavailable????

I have tried to find it but keep getting some sort of Directory instead!

Anyone know if the site is still up and running?

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GROSS INCOME!

by Kagloo in

a question.... .

i have already mentioned this on another thread but got no answer... perhaps someone here can help.... .

it has been reported that the wtbts 'made' (what ever that means) $931 million in 2000. what does that mean?

Kagloo

THI CHI...

I got the infro from one of the threads on this site... To find it quickly just click on 'SEARCH' at top of page and type in $951,000.000. The thread will be displayed for you to see. It is from the Newsday Top 40 Private Companies.

Cheers

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Any Writers out There?

by Sirona in

jw
friends

who of you are writers out there?.

since being a child, people have responded positively to my writing.

i've written countless items of poetry, but never let them out into the public domain.

Kagloo

For the record....

I have been writing songs, lyrics, short stories, novels for years... since the mid 1960's. Lots of people think that some of the stuff I do is great.. others couldn't care less. As far as getting published is concerned ... Ah... that's a different matter!

It's not WHAT you know or how good you are.. It's WHO you know! It might be a cliche but it's sadly true.

I have been so close, so many times to publishing deals etc... that in the end I decided that as long as I was happy with my work that's fine... perhaps in a 1,000 years when someone un-earths some of my stuff????? Well you never know....

You might like to try Bookselecta.com They have a 'free' service that allows people to read your book for free. If enough people read it you are offered a deal! Log on and talk to them about it! Three of my books (children's fiction) were on their site for over a year.

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TO THE ELDERS: LEAVE US ALONE!!!

by minimus in

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friends

the local needs part dealt with this need.

too many are saying we don't want to confide in the elders and let them shepherd us.

perhaps, if the elders realized that they are nothing but a pain in the butt, they would just leave everybody alone!

Kagloo

Didn't Jesus pray all night before chosing the twelve apostles... and wasn't one of them no good ( Judas) He was appointed not only by Holy Spirit ( I guess Christ had access to it all the time) but he was appointed by the future Head of the Congregation. The point I think I'm trying to make is that just because someone is appointed at one time doesn't guarantee that the appointment will prove to be a valid one indefinitely... So surely it is the RIGHT thing to refrain from trusting in men who prove by there actions and decisions etc.etc. that they are perhaps not 'valid' in their office. Wouldn't Jesus have been proud of anyone who, if approached by Judas with something like " hey man let's take the money and run" distanced themselves from him and kept 'the faith'?

It's just a thought.

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TO THE ELDERS: LEAVE US ALONE!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

the local needs part dealt with this need.

too many are saying we don't want to confide in the elders and let them shepherd us.

perhaps, if the elders realized that they are nothing but a pain in the butt, they would just leave everybody alone!

Kagloo

Some of them do mean well..... but personally I have had such negative and damaging experiences dealing with SOME of them that I have been frightened off approaching ANY of them! Which is a shame because when it works, the concern and care from someone who genuinely loves or cares about you is a refreshing and encouraging thing.

Just final thought.... How many people would approach an amateur

and ask for help in dealing with their problems etc.etc.

in the field of education or medicine etc. Not many!

And yet we are expected to confide in men who have no

qualifications in any of the relevant fields of social science...

by that I mean Social work... Counselling etc.

 This point of view is not meant as a negative thing,

but rather a positive suggestion that the elders

undergo specialized training in these areas

so that they are no longer seen as 'blundering' through

our personal lives like a herd of untrained amateurs who

leave trails of heartbreak and devastation in their wake!

 It's like Judicial Committees...

How on earth can some of these men be expected

to deal with the complex problems that are

brought before them?

 People have to train for YEARS to practice in what to all intents

and purposes is a minefield of human emotions and behaviours.

 Why not have specially, professionally trained men in each circuit who

could specifically deal with these traumatic cases...

and who could be called on at any time, rather than expect

'ordinary' men to have to deal with these things....

To be honest I'm suprised they haven't got into

more trouble than they are sadly already in!

Edited by - Kagloo on 27 September 2002 9:47:57

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What is God doing?

by Kagloo in

this is a genuine question... i mean no disrespect to anyone...especially to my heavenly father....but i have this gnawing question in my head that just wont go away...... okay... with that out of the way.... let's take the holly and jessica story that hit the headlines in the uk recently...two innocent kids, murdered and left to decompose in a filthy mud trench....;or worse than that, the story about the two people in the usa who have been busted for running an internet child porn site that features pix of children...babies as young as five months... five months!!!!!!

!.....being sexually abused..... if i start to think about what these poor kids went through it drives me mad!

and then if i start to think about what some kids are still going through even as i write..... welli can hardly bear it!.

Kagloo

Bible Basher....

Well... you started it! It's your fault... I have merely become a clone of my master...Ha ha!

p.s. Thanks for the Tax! You're a gudbud!