Welcome, You will find that this is a place where you will be accepted no matter what your feelings are. We are all in different places, still in, inactive, DAed or DFed. Some still believe in Jehovah, some believe in no god. But most of us know the pain of losing faith or family or friends. Tell us your story when and if you are ready. Sometimes it helps to talk about it and we will all be here for you. els
Posts by els
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I am new.
by Utopian_Raindrops inok everyone...i am new.. i don't know what to say....just hello.. i am a disfellowshipped jehovah's witness...which maybe one day i will get in detail about....but right now it's still too painful.. besides if i talk about it i feel like i am talking bad about people or hindering jehovah's spirit with others.
i realy try to shy away from speaking badly of people...even if they hurt me.. what i believe in my heart is no one can truely hurt you if your standing with the creator is good in his eyes.they in reality hurt only themselves,because they hinder thier relationship with our maker.. i do not like to talk bad about any religious group realy because, i think what if jehovah some how aproved of them and then i am introuble!.
i can't remember where the scripture is but it is about the apostles and the advice was to let them go....and if they were from god then you know....but if they weren't then it would end...thier preaching and basically god would take care of them.. i feel jesus could say the things he did of religious leaders because,well.....he is th son of god and these people claimed to represent his dad.
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I guess I'm lucky. I have a long yard with a huge ditch at the eastern end of it. We just wait till a nice day with the wind out of the west and we start raking. We also take a couple big pieces of cardboard and just walk through the pile like big plows. In about half an hour the whole mess is in the ditch. It looks funny but it works. els
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A small victory
by acsot inokay, my mom is elderly (80 yrs.
old) and not able to get to all the meetings like she used to (which is definitely a plus for me!
btw shes living with me now, since last spring, cause shes not able to keep up with things anymore).
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Acsot, I am so happy for you! It is so encouraging that your mom is willing to have a conversation like that with you. Maybe, just maybe you can fade out and take your mom along with you. At least if the worst happens you will still have her. Keep up the good work. I should be able to be in chat on Tuesday. Talk to you soon, els
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Why Did You???
by kelpie inwhy did you choose the nickname you did for this forum??
also who do you think has the coolest/funniest/weirdest name on the board?
i choose kelpie because that is my partner's nickname for me as my initials are klp.
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els
els is short for Elsie, but it's kinda symbolic for me. All the JWs when I was growing up called me Ellie which I HATED. My friends in school started calling me els and I liked it so it stuck. Also when I used to get into it with my mother she would say , do such and such "or else" and if I was feeling mouthy I would say "or else what?" Somehow being called els became symbolic of not being told what to do. els
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A year in the life of a JW - February highlights
by outbackaussie inwitnessing for 6 hours, worked with aafke in morning then calls.
then nh in davistown with stuart and dannie.
stuart made me sit in the front so e didn't have to sit next to me.
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OBA, You went beach witnessing? els
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Forbidden Pleasures ......
by BobsGirl inthis morning on the way to work, i burst into song.
not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".
i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.
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I love singing in the car also. I grew up thinking I couldn't sing but I think that was because we had such poor songs to sing. Now I just belt out whatever I want and I'm not that bad. At least I don't think I am.
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Holidays and former JW's
by Granny Linda intwo threads in one sitting...i'd best get busy with housework or something.... i'm relaxing and enjoying conversation about the holidays when i had to remember this is a site for former jw's, or mostly anyhow.
last holiday season someone reminded me that not everyone has family to enjoy this time of year with, and it made me sad.
sorta like those bitter-sweet times that life sometimes gives us.
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Granny Linda, Like you I should be doing some housework, I have today off and have done nothing but a load of laundry. And I plan on being in chat at 12:45. Oh Well!
This is turning into a day to reflet on the past and hope for the future. Read my replies to you about grandchildren and Joelbear about being remembered.
So for this Thanksgiving I will cook a huge bird for me, my husband, my son and daughter and her boyfriend. We will play music while we cook, and make a big mess, and put the boyfriend to work cause he doesn't know how to cook and needs to learn. The women in this family have a problem with doing all the "womens work" LOL. Then we will play games while the turkey cooks, get a little bit drunk, stuff ourselves, clean up then collapse in the living room, maybe with a movie. It will be small but wonderful anyway. Ihope yours is also. els -
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Discussion With My Dad...Ended Badly.
by Valis insome of you may know that my parents were expected for "dinner" on thanksgiving day.
well i really don't think its going to happen now.
i called my dad last night becuase my mother, now visiting my kids in south texas and bringing them here to see me, said they had "stuff to do on thursday".
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Valis ,
I would like nothing better than to have a big old family dinner, but that is their decision, not mine. They know they are welcome here any time as long as they don't bring their religion with them.
Maybe something you said will sink in. Like you said, all it takes is kicking out just the right rock in the dam. Hang in there and have a great Thanksgiving anyway. els -
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JW Bro-in law dies
by borgfree insunday my brother-in-law, loyd gardiner, died.
he was an elder in the richmond, indiana congregation for about 50 years.. my son and i are having real problems deciding what to do.
we had decided not to go to the services because almost everyone there will be jws and we do not see the need to expose ourselves to the rude treatment by them.. i got a phone message last night from someone, not baptized jw, who thought we should go to the viewing today, to show "our respects".
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BF, He obviously loved you very much. I would go to honor that love. No one should be allowed to deny you the opportunity to pay your respects. I would go and evpress my condolences to eveyone there. If they choose to snub you then they will look like the unchristian ones.
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How long are people remembered?
by joelbear in.
unless you are famous for something how long are you really remembered?.
maybe you are remembered at most by your grandchildren, but then your presence in the universe is gone.. so, really, what difference does it make whether you die in your 40's or your 70's, your memory simply lingers another 30 years at most.
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JB, I don't think it is so important how long you are remembered as how well you are remembered. I just replied to Granny Linda's post about grandchildren with some memories of my grandmother. I have good memories of many people. My family had great times when I was growing up. We did alot of things together, working on our farm, swimming in the river, congregation get-togethers to play softball, square dancing, rollerskating, ice skating and sliding in the winter. But all that was overshadowed by the "truth". My brother was disfellowshipped for smoking and various ones of us were always in some trouble for things that should have been a normal part of growing up. I had one wordly friend that I held on to tenaciously. I never really felt like a true witness, just someone going through the motions. All of the good memories are tainted by the disapproval that was always there in the background.
So I want my childrens memories to be better. I have kept them away from my parents disapproval. But now that they are older they know that it is there. They have written to my daughter asking how she thinks her college education will help her get everlasting life. My son knows that they think he is serving the devil because he is in the army. I try to tell them to be understanding but they don't want anything to do with my parents because they are shunning me.
So my memories are ruined a little by the "truth" and so will my kids be. But their kids, my grandchildren, will know only unconditional love. So maybe I will only be remembered by two or maybe three generations if I'm lucky. But those memories will be the best that I can make them and hopefully that spirit will be passed down to generations I will never know. els