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CONCLUSION: Get your wife to make friends with ALL JWs. That way they may ALL leave!
Ian
Posts by Dansk
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12I always wondered why my wife's best friends left the religion
by OnTheWayOut inmy wife's maid of honor at our wedding- married a worldly guy and left the religion .
after years of pioneer service.. my wife's former best friend from her single days as a teen- grew up to leave the .
religion entirely, came back for a brief stint, left again.. my wife's most current former best friend- is now a fringe jw, as she has been .
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I always wondered why my wife's best friends left the religion
by OnTheWayOut inmy wife's maid of honor at our wedding- married a worldly guy and left the religion .
after years of pioneer service.. my wife's former best friend from her single days as a teen- grew up to leave the .
religion entirely, came back for a brief stint, left again.. my wife's most current former best friend- is now a fringe jw, as she has been .
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Dansk
Trygon:
I'm going to be perfectly frank with you. Because of your young age and the amount of testosterone flowing through your body we have given you a lot of leeway.
This place has the biggest concentration of Atheists I have ever seen and the one thing most of them have in common is that they used to be JWs. I say that the quicker this parasite is removed and squashed the less damage is done to Christianity.
Why do you equate atheist with parasite?
Why do you feel atheism is causing damage to Christianity?
Before you answer I feel you should know that the majority of atheists on this forum, of which I am one, are dear friends with the majority of Christians on this forum. We often get into debate, but neither wishes the other harm.
Ian
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Is all religion in some way abusive?
by nvrgnbk ini wish to thank writetoknow for prompting this question from his thread "hating religion is it bigotry?".
what has been your personal experience?.
consider the impressionable mind of the infant.. is it fair to indoctrinate them with dogma?.
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Dansk
We all know young minds can be manipulated - just look at the terrible atrocities meted out by young children on other children and adults in certain African countries. They were encouraged to do it by adults and told it was the right thing to do.
Religion is no different in the sense that it can manipulate the young, impressionable mind. As Dawkins said: "There is no such thing as a child Christian or child Muslim or child Jew, etc. They are the children of Christians, Muslims and Jews, etc."
Take a young Muslim or Jewish child and place them in a Christian family and they'll grow up to become Christians and vice versa.
So, of course all religions are abusive in that they manipulate young minds (and adult minds, too) - but, of course, such manipulation, e.g. the African situation above, proves it's not exclusive to religion. Hitler's regime did a "great" job in manipulating the minds of virtually an entire nation.
Ian
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Tattoos
by LouBelle indid anyone go and get a tattoo after you left, either because you really wanted too or because you just wanted to rebel.. i got one done about a year afterwards.
it's a black widow: i've got another 3 lined up.. .
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Dansk
Well, my younger son keeps talking about having a tattoo - and Claire and I keep having to talk him out of it!
The point is, I've read much about how people regret having it done in later years and go through laser treatment to get rid of them. I'm not against tattoos - in moderation and providing they are attractively and artistically tasteful - but Dominic is only 17 (nearly 18) and I feel he could regret it in later life. When he's older he can choose from, hopefully, a mature head and Claire and I certainly wouldn't interfere.
Ian
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See you all next year
by Mrs Smith ini'm going on leave and will only be back on the 14th january 2008.. i wish you all a merry christmas and i hope that all your dreams come true 2008.. please be responsible over the festive season and don't drink and drive.. .
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Dansk
I wish you all a merry Christmas and I hope that all your dreams come true 2008.
Reciprocated tenfold!
Ian
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Science v Creationism
by Mr Ben inscience v creationism.
i keep popping back here every now and then to see whats going on, and i have noticed that the same questions about science and creationism are continually posted and answered now, as they were when i first came here.
for example, the statement that the sun and not the earth is the centre of the solar system is a scientific statement (the heliocentric theory) that is considered valid because it explains a large body of evidence (facts from the real world).
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Dansk
Mr. Ben,
Now that your thread has been hi-jacked (I know what you were trying to do ) I think you would be as well to make your own website and provide a link. Funkyderek does have a point about a personal blog and this being a discussion forum.
OR
You could ask the mods if they would kindly block all traffic to a new read-only thread where only you and they have access and the rest of us could post on your other thread - but I'm not too hopeful.
Best wishes,
Ian
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At what age would you dicuss homosexuality with your children?
by llbh inon recent a thread a poster here discussed about having discovered his daughter was gay.
whilst reading this my 11 year old son was looking over my shoulder, and reading along with me, some of the discussion was quite adult but respectful .
so i began thinking what age would you discuss these things?
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Dansk
My youngest looked at me and said, well that wasn't very nice of him to call someone gay a dyke
OOPS! Often, when Stephie and I are in conversation I'll say: "And is she/are they dykes?" and Stephie will say: "Yes" or "No".
I guess it's the way it is said rather than the term itself as Stephie has no problem with it.
Ian
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Am I being Horrible?
by LouBelle inright so it's time to buy christmas gifts and the like - which is great - i do love giving.
now i don't usually give to get back.....but some of my so called mates just seem to like taking and taking..... this one guy - i'm mates with his sister and we have gotten to know each other and i'd say we have become friends - when it was his birthday (my first invite) i got him a really unique quirky gift, then came christmas and i got him 2 gifts and added a fun aspect to it, his birthday rolled around again this year and i got him another nice gift.. me: i got a card for chrismtas and he went halvies on a cheap book with his sister for my birthday.
so this year i'm not getting him anything, his sister comes to me and asks if i'm getting anything for him, so i said no - he'll be getting a card from me, she looked a lil stunned.. i do feel a lil bad but i'm tired of always giving and giving and giving and giving - hell he even forgot about my christmas party this weekend.
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Dansk
2008 my words will be my gift ;o)
Hey, that's jolly good, y'know! I might use that saying myself!
Good for you, Louise.
Love,
Ian
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Anyone else feel like an emotional mutant at this time of year?
by tall penguin ini've been attempting to infiltrate my friend's christmas traditions in an attempt to understand and appreciate the holiday.
i only had christmas until i was 5 when my mom converted to jw.
before that, christmas was really big in our house.
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Dansk
T.P.
I loved how pretty everything looked and I had fun baking. But I still felt odd somehow. I still feel like a stranger in a strange land. And people really can't appreciate what it's like to not have had these holidays growing up and to now be trying to assimilate them.
Very understandable for those of us here! However, going off my children as they were brought up JWs by me so missed out on Christmas and birthdays and ...............................
My children, once set free, immersed themselves in the world by making good new friends and taking part in all the holidays. They have thoroughly enjoyed their "new births"
So, if you can immerse yourself in "worldly" activities all year round, eg. going out more, socialising with worldly friends more, enjoying Easter, etc., by the time you get to Christmas you'll be right there in the middle thoroughly enjoying it. I know I do but, more to the point, so do my adult children!!
Love,
Ian
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Are the Anointed real?
by yknot indear jwders.
as i continue to question all that i have ever known, i am now at the subject of the anointed .
was there ever anyone really anointed after pentecost?
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Dansk
Disjointed, yes! Anointed, No!
Ian