Posts by 95stormfront

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..you can fool some of the people

by yesidid in

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did anyone on the board have a sudden; this is it, its wrong, wrong all wrong moment.

mine was an interesting one.

we, [my husband and i] were having questions and doubts for many years.

95stormfront

Actually I have to thank some unknown person at a door when I was with my wife in service. This kindly gentleman walked us into his home listened to our speil and then started peppering us with questions about the founding of the JW religion. We both were tripping all over ourselves trying to explain to him that it was Charles Russell who actually founded the international Bible Student which later became the WTBS. I vaguely remember him asking me a lot of other questions. In hindsight, I see now that he was trying to get us to come to the conclusion ourselves of the great lunacy that is the JW religion.

I remember going to the service conductor and talking to him about what they guy was asking us and asking if he'd accompany us to the guys house thinking that he would be better able to answer this guys questions in which he refused. He was just as afraid of answering questions for this guy as we were ill equipped to handle his questions.

But my all time enlightenment came when I decided to go back to school to better equip myself to take care of my family, and I had elders in my house everyother weekend telling me that I was wasting my time....more meeetings.....more service...yada...yada...yada with my wife sitting across from me agreeing with everything they said while in the meantime we're drowning in a see of increasing read ink.

I knew then that I had to take back control of my life whether or not it pleased them and their WT god.

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Do you regret ever getting baptized

by ikhandi in

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friends

thousand of witnesses do it every year and for what they believe are good reasons.

i did it because i was pressured by elders.

its interesting to note how elders can target young people into committing their life to something they really know nothing about.

95stormfront

How do you feel about breaking your vow to serve god faithfully for the rest of your life?

This question implies that you believe that there is some type of equality between serving God and serving the WT organization. Leaving the WT organization does not equate with a failure to serve God...quite the contrary. Most of the poeple I know who've been heavily exposed to the organization are more spiritual outside of it than they ever were on the inside.

And no...I don't regret it. It was only after that that the JWs I knew began to show how really controlling and corrupt they were. It was a godsend........the very catalyst for me deciding that I wanted nothing to do with them.

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Why did it take so long to work it out?

by sleepy in

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assuming you were brought up as a witness or converted for at least a few years , why do you think it takes so long to work out its not true?.

95stormfront

I think that the lack of access to information is the reason it takes so long to realize that this religion is not "the truth".

the need to be accepted by family and friends who are Dubs; lack of alternate ways of thinking; the demonization of every source of information that is critical of what's being presented to you, etc.

I would agree it was the lack of access to good information that refuted what they were teaching is what took me so long, although I wasn't in for about two and a half years. And even after the explosion of the internet, the demonization of every information source critical of them is what kept me believing as long as I did. It was only a few years ago that I was able to even bring myself to look for information critical of the witnesses on the internet, though I had long since stopped going to meetings and resolved that the religion was a farce.

After having lunch with my wife today, I'm quite sure these are reasons why she continues to believe. The acceptance of her family all of which are dubs. She takes most every written article as have some grain of truth except anything written negative about the WTS.

Maybe she doesn't want to dissappoint those old pioneer sisters she studied so long with?

Perhpas she still holds out hope that she'll be seeing her now dead staunch JW grandmother she loved so much in their new system?

MOstly I think it's the arrogance and refusal to come to the realization that the WT could be wrong about anything since she's invested so much time in it.

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I can't do it anymore.

by Gadget in

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friends

people who've been reading my posts will know i've been trying to get reinstated so i can get back together with my girlfriend/fiance.

the more time goes on, the less i feel able to do that.

all the things i hear from the platform, and the things that elders have said to me just reinforce the fact that i want nothing at all to do with this organisation anymore.

95stormfront

Right now I can't talk to my wife about any of the Q's that I have RE the WTS; and it's really tough. If I do, she runs to the elders with it so that they can 'correct' my thinking.

Based upon your last post about your meeting with them they haven't been pretty successful at that.

HOw it going between you and them anyway.

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My Wife & I Went To A JW "Wine Party" Tonight

by minimus in

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there were approximately 25 people there and a few from our hall and no one questioned us about anything, the entire night!

as i was leaving, one of our friends asked me if she would see me at the kingdom hall again.

i answered, "if you see me, i'll be there".

95stormfront

My mistake....I thought you said "whine" party.....

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1 Hour to my sons Judicial Committee

by freeman in

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friends

well this is about as real as it gets.

in about an hour my son will be appearing before a judicial committee for the second time in as many weeks.

unfortunately i just happen to be about 3000 miles away right now (business trip) so i cant be there for support and i cant get the ancillary information that i would normally get just by being present.

95stormfront

Why don't you pull the "head of the house" card and not let them meet with your son unless you're there?

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Are the JW's Bleeding Numbers?

by Loris in

check this out.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2003/003/19.7.html .

jw's are the most likely to leave.

95stormfront

If they still did that the numbers they disfellowship coupled with those who leave would outnumber those who stay in. That wouldn't be very ...............encouraging.

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Are the JW's Bleeding Numbers?

by Loris in

check this out.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2003/003/19.7.html .

jw's are the most likely to leave.

95stormfront

I once heard the average person that begins a study and attending meeting only lasts two years

That was about how long it took for me to pull my head out my ass and dump that asinine bulls$@%. If I'd listened to my mom and dad I would not have wasted even that much time.

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Applying for a job, did you tell interviewers that you were a JW ???

by run dont walk in

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friends

when going for a interview, did you tell the interviewer that you were a jw , and couldn't work meeting nights.

did you think being theocratic would help you get the job ???.

or were you the type to take the job, so you could miss the meetings.

95stormfront

When I was a JW I never...EVER...mentioned it to a potential employer. Even when I was deeply indoctrinated, I knew better than that. My wife on the other hand......

College Education........WT Theocratic Ministry School ( her self described greatest school on earth )

It can safely be said though that she didn't get many requests for her services advertising that piece of crap.

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My wifes and I meeting with two elders. Their true colors shine through

by Winston Smith :>D in

i thought id give you an update re whats going on.

my qing the wts of recent has been very hard on my wife.

if i could, i would change my timing of doing so, but its just the way it has happened.

95stormfront

Winston

YOu're literally "beating them to death" with their own literature and double talk...their arrogance refuses to let them see it. I'm sure you understand that you're basically in a "no win scenario" with these clowns. Hopefully you can claim at least a partial victory getting your wife out and get revenge by living a happy and productive life in spite of them.