Excellent points, objtruth.
pronomono
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"The governing body at that time..."
by OneEyedJoe inso i'm listening to the regional manager give his mid week talk and he's going over acts 15 where they're dealing with the issues that arrose from the jewish christians wanting the gentile christians to adhear too the mosaic law, so some of the apostles gathered to hash it out.
it struck me, though, that he kept using the phrase "the governing body at that time" to describe the apostles and older men who decided on the matter.
once he even slipped up and said apostles, then corrected it to the gb.. i'm thinking that they've actually gone so far as to put it in his outline to make sure its beaten into the r/f that the gb's power is somehow based in scripture.
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Leaving Me Behind for Your New World
by compound complex inonce i loved the sound of your voice, butyour words have become meaningless.
as you venture into a state that leaves me,your companion, at a loss as to what to.
think, to do, if ever again i should link myheart and soul and body to one like you.. your honey words no longer melt in my earsthough, surely, they become fainter as you.
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pronomono
Beautiful. I had to read it a couple of times. Each time had more meaning than the last.
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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!
by hardtobeme init has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.
he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.
if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".
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pronomono
Although this was never a written in my congregation, as a MS I was expected to take the group out in service on a scheduled rotation. All other elders and servants were in the rotation. We were also told that in addition to the schedule, we had to set the example in being exemplary in field service by supporting Sunday field service. It was inferred that we were supposed to support the arrangement a couple of times each month, even if only meeting for field service and stopping by a gas station on the way home to get a few minutes with the family. It seemed like it was more for show. On the few times that I did support it, everyone already had their groups of two or gas station they wanted to stop by with their family.
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A Community Service
by ctrwtf inso i'm having lunch as this pretty popular cafe,sitting at the bar enjoying a stella artois.. out of the corner of my eye i catch two well dressed ladies asking the bartender if the manager is available.
the bartender tells the ladies that the manager is not in.
the ladies proceed to tell the bartender that they are doing a community service.........you know the rest.. the bartender takes the magazines i'm sure to just get rid of them.
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pronomono
It sounds like you were the one that did the community a service.
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does God read our minds, or should we pray out loud?
by sowhatnow ini always wondered, can god read our thoughts?
if he can then why cant satan?.
i was told by my mother that god can read our minds, but satan cant satan can only hear our words and see our motives and what we do,.
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pronomono
You're making a whole lot of presuppositions there.
Here's a question that got me well on the road to waking up and finding it was all a big lie: How does prayer actually work? (that means the mechanism, not any perceived "results")
It's a simple question, but by being totally honest about it you will find it eye opening.
I've often wondered this very thing. I've been doing a lot of thinking about this from a scientific standpoint. From a scientific standpoint, a prayer is simply a thought, one that we have directed to what we perceive to be God. If prayer is simply a thought, this can be measured somewhat by the instruments scientists have to measure such. However, scientists have yet to figure out how to intercept a thought to know its contents. We have identified certain parts of the brain that react to certain stimuli and emotions, but we can't decode thoughts. This does not mean that it is impossible though. Just like all the other discoveries in the scientific communtity that we believed were impossible only a few years ago, we are learning as human race to do incredible things. The human genome project is one of those things.
I believe that it is possible to read human thoughts, but we just haven't learned how to yet. We don't yet have the intruments or the knowledge on how to do so. But I believe we will figure this out someday (or at least people much smarter than me will ). This leads to the conclusion that if humans can figure out how to read thoughts, then God (assuming he/she/it exists) can read thoughts since he is our maker and aware of our make-up. This also would follow that Satan (under the same assumption that he/she/it exists) has much more familiarity with our human makeup than we do since he has observed us since our creation. It would be reasonable to conclude that Satan has learned how to read human thoughts as well, since it is purely a neurological metric of electrical pulses among the neurons in our brain.
If God doesn't exist, we can probably safely say, someone in the future will be able to hear our prayers (or thoughts), once we, as humans, figure out how to decipher this neurological process.
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"You have to find out her fears and exploit that. What is her worst fear?"
by cognac inliterally, a text message to my husband from one of his "friends".
he also wrote, "it's in her hands.
it's her move now.
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pronomono
As an update, last night something really went off in his head. This is more then JWs, there's something really wrong with him. I called a mental health place this morning and we are going to the emergency room to get him evaluated.
Considering your last post, I hope things are going as well as can be for you and your kids. It sounds like you are dealing with an incredibly difficult, mentally-abusive situtation compounded by your husband's own mental instabilities. Dealing with someone in this state can be tough because you never know what they are capable of or what they are even thinking. Please be on guard for the safety of you and your kids.
Keep us updated, and we'll try to offer as much words of encouragement and support as we can. Helping each other through our difficult times encourages all of us because we see that we can get the commraderie, love, and support that we need outside of the Watchtower even though we were told we couldn't.
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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."
by donny in"it's the intent that counts not the result.".
i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.
the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.
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pronomono
Thanks, Donny. I've been to that page plenty of times over the past year but with information overload, I'd forgotten about it. I need to go back through JWFacts again now that I've had time to digest the information some.
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Assembly Streaming videos
by sp74bb invideo of convention online for download .
the english international convention program presented in east rutherford from june.
20 to 22, 2014, will be available for viewing beginning friday, june 27, 2014. the spanish international.
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pronomono
And we can submit our attendance after logging in. Sweet!
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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."
by donny in"it's the intent that counts not the result.".
i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.
the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.
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pronomono
Donny,
You don't happen to have the reference for...
"He even went as far as to say 1925 had more scriptural support than 1914 and that the Christian of today (1920's) had more assurance that 1925 was true than Noah has belief in the coming deluge."
I'd like to have this for my own little library. I can find the print copy if only I know what artictle, page, etc to look for.
Thanks.
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Suggestion: Don't Accept Everyone's Opinion Here
by minimus ineveryone has an opinion on things.
oftentimes, we ask for help or want the view of the board in a matter.
but just remember, the comments are simply personal views.
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pronomono
True, true.
The beauty of this board are the personal views, though. We certainly have plenty from one end of the spectrum to the other.