ballistic
no jw is brought up in the truth. they are raised as a jw but not in the truth.
just saying!
eyeuse2badub
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Thinking about thinking and upbringing
by ballistic ini was thinking about being "brought up in the truth" as opposed to joining.. as a child's brain develops, it builds connections based on what it is taught.
these connections are inseparable from the person in that our thoughts and memories actually become part of our personality (who we are).. a very simple example, might be being taught *not to do something* because it "displeases jehovah".
the understanding of right and wrong is then set in the child's mind and built upon.. there are several points of thought i have about this fact.
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I'm studying with Jehovah's Witnesses!!
by Kulotti79 inhello all... i currently studying the bible teach book and i'm just curious what information does the study conductor record about the student and is it passed on??
and they keep on saying "the truth" which is starting to get on my nerves.
lol.
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"An investigation of Truth should do not harm, if it's not the Truth it should do harm."
Ask the jw who is conducting the "study" if you are free to investigate JW's and some of their past teachings. He or she will definitely record that little tidbit of info.just saying!
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Clever/snappy comeback for "you're an apostate"
by Dagney ini'm looking for some clever comebacks.
i really don't care that i am an apostate, but would like to deliver a quick comeback or two to perhaps make the other person think.
any suggestions most welcome.
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May I ask "How does the GB get 'new light'? If the 'new light' is different from previous teachings of the wtbts, then isn't the GB member who introduces the 'new light' an apostate?"
just saying!
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At the meeting ... Ugh
by cappytan inat least i have this forum.
is there a shorthand for referring to this website?
saying jehovahs-witness.com seems like a long winded way..
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When I make my monthly appearance at the Sunday meeting (don't want to become irregular ya know lol) I usually have about 2 shots of vodka before we leave to numb my mind and remain calm during the indoctrination session. Wish I'd thought of that 50 years ago.
just saying!
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Brooklyn Update – January 10, 2015
by Sour Grapes inemail sent to me from a friend in new york city..
brooklyn update january 10, 2015.
we have spent the last few weeks in training at the montgomery facility (near walkill) there are 6 couples that were trained to go on the road as ldc field representatives of the branch.
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eyeuse2badub
Sounds like a great BUSINESS model to me. FREE labor, discounted materials, 'loan' the money to the local to buy, the locals repay the 'loan' and the wtbts still owns the property. Brilliant! LCD or RBC makes no difference.
just saying!
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How to reply to- "just wait on Jehovah".
by runForever inall you have to say is "who says jehovah is not using me right now?
" something to that effect.. if they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out amos nipper of figs.
and if they say "do you think you're a prophet?
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eyeuse2badub
I've not only had the good old "wait on jehober" told to me since my fade, but I used that very phrase many, many time to "encourage" others.
Now when the elders tell me I need to "wait on jehober" I ask them if that applies to all jw's or only the rank and file dubs. Of course the tell me it applies to ALL jw's so i then ask doesn't the gb "wait on jehober" to get the correct story--you know, the truth-- before they print bulls**t lies in the wt literature? The need to constantly have 'nu-lite' tells any reasoning person the the gb didn't "wait on jehober"!
just saying!
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Is this a discussion forum or a debating forum , which is it ?
by smiddy indo you get confused sometimes whether this site is a discussion forum or a debating forum ?.
just asking.
whats your thoughts.. smiddy.
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eyeuse2badub
Smiddy,
Do you get confused sometimes whether this site is a discussion forum or a debating forum ?
Really? Are you going soft on us? You have a lot of interesting, intelligent posts on this site so keep up the good work and don't worry about "debaters". Debate-discuss, What's the difference, it's just a word.
just saying!
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I'm surprised that the GB still publishes the 'real' numbers, if in fact these are the real numbers. The negative stats reveal a trend that IMHO will soon be showing up in many more countries as the "Armageddon sooooon" lie becomes more apparent.
I'm sure that if the GB prayed over it, received "nu lite", and got jehobers blessing, the negative numbers could somehow become positive by "overlapping" the stats and/or by accepting "some fractions" from other doner countries. Of course, the GB would not accept 'whole' numbers from doner countries, but "fractions" could possibly save some of the 'dying' countries.
Just sayhing!
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First Time Post - Long time reader
by Samaritan At the Well intoday is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.
i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.
my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.
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Hi Samaritan
" I was baptized at a young age and once I got married I was a very spiritual man as they would call me. My husband and I served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to International convention. We were even thinking of going into the Circuit Work. That is how deep into this religion we were. My husband was an elder and I was his spiritual wife by his side for decades."
Welcome
Your story is much like mine except that I'm the Husband in my story. Nearly 6 decades for me. Baptized at 12, giving public talks at 18, married at 19, appointed as an elder at 23. Over 2 decades as an elder. I was a 'golden child' for the wtbts. Circuit assembly parts at 20. Wife and I talked about circuit work and damn glad we had children instead. It was not just one particular thing that helped me see ttatt, it was many things. Oh yea, the fear and guilt of "looking behind the curtain" hindered my exit and in addition I was the COBE at the time I'd had enough. I really though that I was all alone in my disgust for the wtbts but I was willing to go it alone if necessary. I "resigned" as an elder and started searching the internet for other "evil apostates" like myself. lol. Read CofC and knew that Ray was telling the "whole"truth. Read a few other books to help me realize what power the wtbts had over people.
Unfortunately, my wife is still in but there is hope as I see her accepting the "new me" and not 'guilt tripping' on me. She's starting to see the fallacy of the wtbts but all of her friends and family are dubs as are mine. It's been an amazing 5-6 year ride out of the wtbts but the self discovery has been so worth it.
Hope to see some of your other posts soon.
just saying!
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Trying to figure things out!
by RecoveringISFJ inwell, i made comments on a couple of post already, but i guess i should somehow introduce myself.
i choose the user name to hopefully try and identify my past while working for future changes in myself.
ive been in and out since i was a kid.
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eyeuse2badub
Hi Recovering,
I was a dub for 57 years. Always had serious doubts about our weird little religion, but being raised in"da troof" you just sort of close your mind to rational, logical thinking and go along. My whole family are jw's and that makes it difficult. When I finally could not go along any longer with the ridiculous crap that the wtbts was teaching, I resigned as an elder and kinda went crazy for several years. I should have been seeing a therapist, didn't and I suffered much mental anguish. I became very depressed and finally checked myself into a mental health facility where I got help dealing with my cognitive dissonance.
When I finally accepted ttatt and told my wife (of 45 years) about how I felt, she was going to leave me because I was an "evil apostate" you know. Been out mentally (sort of faded away) now for 5-6 years but not df'ed or da'ed. My wife is beginning to understand also that the 'da troof' is not 'da troof'. It's been quite a ride (as many of us here can testify) but well worth the anguish since my life is now mine. The freedom is exhilarating! Time to pursue the things I loved but neglected is very rewarding/satisfying. My wife, though still active as a dub, has seen a happier, better me and I know that she knows why. You can't go back in time to reclaim all those lost decades but, you can live a very fulfilling life now and in the future.
Hang tuff because it will get better and hopefully (if you want it) your wife will someday see ttatt. You're doing the right thing by getting therapy.
just saying!
eyeuse2badub