when god informed of his intention of destroying the wicked inhabitants of sodom and gomorrah abraham made extensive questioning, cross-questioning and bargaining with god till he gets satisfied.
(genesis 18:16-33) however, when god informed of his intention of murdering abraham’s own only-begotten, innocent son, he simply obeys without any questionings [which he should naturally have done more intensely than he did in the case of unrelated wicked people].. god too acted strangely!
no introduction of the subject with sufficient reasons.
Abraham and Lot, although fictional characters, are very good examples of moral decadency. Abraham got to bang his wife's younger and more beautiful hand maid, got to lie about his relationship to Sarah, etc.
Lot got to bang his 2 daughters and father their illegitimate kids.
The bible calls Abraham 'god's friend' and Lot a 'righteous man'.
just saying!
in the early 1950's i changed my life.
i started to study the bible with a jw.
big mistake!
Yes there are so many of us on this forum that are now in the autumn of our lives. I'm 71 and have the benefit of being able to look back to see to folly of being a jw (or any religion for that matter). Ah yes the circle of life!
I cannot complain too much because my life has not been racked with too much in the way of extraordinary pain and suffering. However, like so many here, there has been much in the way of unfilled dreams and aspirations that we gave up to be 'good' jw's.
Life is not over and living happy successful lives for the remainder of what we have left is the truly refreshing and liberating!
just saying!
i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.
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do you guys believe satan is real?
He's a 'real' part of Hebrew mythology, a.k.a. the bible!
just saying!
in the recently leaked bethel training videos, both speakers state that inappropriate flirting really amounts to lying, as if a person is misrepresenting either his interest or availability to another person romantically.. we are reminded that the bible is very plain in its expressions on lying such as proverbs 12:22 which states it is detestable to god.
so with the example given here, we must have a very high standard in separating what is truthful from what is not.. with that being the case, it shocks me that bethel would produce a video presented to all in attendance at the 2017 regional convention regarding the early 1970's, essentially rewriting history as to what actually happened.. is misrepresenting your past and misleading millions of followers not a much more extreme case of lying from those who claim to reject any form of lying no matter how small, such as flirting?
would anyone like to add more examples to this thread?.
If you're in the "troof" it's ok to lie!
just saying!
matthew 7:7 jesus says: ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.
for every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone?
I can't help but think of those 40+ jw's in the Philippines a few years ago that were no doubt praying to jehober when that typhoon hit. WTF, they were inside the Kingdom Hall praying for help when a tidal wave took them to their death. Guess jehober was busy answering the prayers of the gb for more helpers to finish the warwick project
just saying!
guess some introduction would be nice, before anything.
i’m a 17 year old men boy raised on a very liberal, highly intelectualized jw family.
currently very anxious on starting medical school at a high ranked public university around here.
Knowing now what I now know from decades of real life experience as a born-in jw, if I were you i would run like hell now! I had the opportunity to go to college but turned it down to pioneer and give my life to the wtbts. What a fu*king mistake! Decades of chasing the proverbial "dangling carrot".
Get a life!
just saying!
a pet peeve of mine is that there are numerous christian denominations (other faiths with their 'holy' books too), all claim that their interpretation of their 'holy' book is the correct interpretation.
my conclusion is that either their god is a very poor communicator or simply doesn't exist.. i used to believe all this stuff when i was a jobo and later a church going christian.
i simply cannot, in all honesty subscribe to it all any more.
“Isn’t it a remarkable coincidence that almost everyone has the same religion as their parents? And it always just happens to be the right religion.”
i can't believe that with all the bible knowing members on this forum (lol) that not one person has posted or commented about the only world championship won by the "city of brotherly love"-----philadelphia eagles!
fly birds fly!.
just saying!.
I can't believe that with all the Bible knowing members on this forum (lol) that not one person has posted or commented about the only world championship won by the "City of Brotherly Love"-----Philadelphia Eagles! Fly birds fly!
just saying!
just seen this announced on reddit:.
ken cook was announced today at morning worship as the new member of the governing body.
i dont recall him from the broadcasts, but he was formally a helper on the writing committee as per https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/.
He will probably be assigned to oversee future financial matters for the borg. He will certainly be able to "Cook the books". And, he can always fall back on the "imperfect man" excuse!
just saying!
i cannot believe i let 7 men in new york tell me god didn't consider me righteous.
how do people that believe in god put up with this crap!!
no wonder in all my years i had a hard time praying.
So 7 "imperfect men" that make up the gb now believe that they get to determine who and who are not righteous? And, based on the FACT that the bible calls Lot (the incestuous dude who banged his own daughters) a "righteous man", I'd rather be considered unrighteous. And, who was it that determined that Lot was righteous?
just saying!
