I say better late than never.
Posts by sandy
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Klansman Konvicted ... Does Anyone Here Care?
by bisous inphiladelphia, mississippi (cnn) -- forty-one years to the day three civil rights workers were ambushed and killed by a ku klux klan mob, a jury found former klansman edgar ray killen guilty of all three counts of manslaughter tuesday.
curious as to jwd'ers reactions.... how do you feel about the verdict?
should it have been murder?
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First Post
by 5thGeneration insome things confuse me here.
i am in the same position as many where i don't agree with so much the society says and feel stuck dragging myself to the meetings and then feel incredible guilt because the study for the day says it is wrong to have any doubts "even in private".
impossible for me!.
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sandy
<div> 7. Boredom: At the Memorial the Brother announced a Special Talk in 2 weeks... The Theme: "Jesus, Who was he and why did he come to earth". WE JUST HEARD THAT, IT WAS THE MEMORIAL! But the say you are "spiritually weak" if you are bored at meetings.
Welcome to the board 5th. It sounds to me that you are on your way out the JW door. You might be uncomfortable with that though but eventually you'll know better.
All it takes is one domino to fall and all the rest follow. I'm currently researching JW history and doctrines and it is becoming clearer and clearer they do not have the "truth" And they are not God's modern day spokeman. But It sounds like you already believe that.
I wish you the best and hope you stick around here.</div> -
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"This Generation" change -- fallout evidence?
by reagan_oconnor ini was reading the recent posts on 2034 and was wondering... .
the 1975 debacle left the fds scrambling for explanations for the mass exodus of r&f who were disillusioned by their bs.
the pat answer has always been, "those people didn't keep pace with god's chariot" and they weren't "strong in the truth" and allowed something so "minor" to "stumble" them.
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sandy
<div>I remember being at the sunday meeting during this new light study. I was only 19 at the time and starting to "drift away" due to that pressing need young people have to party.
I remember being happy and relived about the change. I thought to myself, this is so good because it buy me more time to get my act together.
Deep down I was terrified of armegeddon. I wasn't sure Jah would forgive me for all the things I did and was doing.
Looking back though, that was about the time an elder's pioneer wife started missing a lot of meetings and dropped from the pioneer list. They said it was due to her ill mother but I often wonder if the change in doctrine had anything to do with it.
I read CofC and it was a tremendous help in putting to rest my fears. I'm now reading M. James Penton's book Apocalypse Delayed and it is helping me even more with my fear of armegeddon.
Learning about all changes and flip-flop doctrines is helping me truly accept that the FDS is not God's visible organization.</div> -
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Scientology & Tom Cruise
by rebel8 inthe stuff on the news is fascinating me, so i just had to start a thread about it.. yesterday i saw online at the guardian that tom cruise had hired some sort of cult bodyguard (tongue in cheek) to accompany his new girlfriend (katie holmes, an actress) around to continue her inculcation into scientology.
they are allegedly saying they're best friends now, though they met very recently.. i'm now reading the 6/17 issue of entertainment weekly magazine.
it says:he had a scientology massage tent on the set of his newest movie (his retort is he had a capuccino tent too)he compares psychiatry to nazis and claims jung (famous psychiatrist) was editor for nazi papers (a claim a jungian group denies)he says methadone was named after hitler (also refuted by the magazine)he slams brooke shields for using anti-depressants
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sandy
<div>I think Tom is a lot better looking now than when he was younger.
But I as of recently I think he is totally a few sandwiches short of a picnic basket. </div> -
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Scientology & Tom Cruise
by rebel8 inthe stuff on the news is fascinating me, so i just had to start a thread about it.. yesterday i saw online at the guardian that tom cruise had hired some sort of cult bodyguard (tongue in cheek) to accompany his new girlfriend (katie holmes, an actress) around to continue her inculcation into scientology.
they are allegedly saying they're best friends now, though they met very recently.. i'm now reading the 6/17 issue of entertainment weekly magazine.
it says:he had a scientology massage tent on the set of his newest movie (his retort is he had a capuccino tent too)he compares psychiatry to nazis and claims jung (famous psychiatrist) was editor for nazi papers (a claim a jungian group denies)he says methadone was named after hitler (also refuted by the magazine)he slams brooke shields for using anti-depressants
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sandy
LMAO @ The Save Katie T-Shirt. I Love It!!!
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Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes Get Engaged
by sandy in<div>just wondering what some of your thoughts on this are.
i shouldn't care but i do.
but i'll save my negative, non-sense comments for later.</div>
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sandy
<div>Ok, I used to defend the Tom Cruise is gay rumor but not anymore.
This affair seems absolutely rediculous to me. I think it is all for publicity, mainly for Katie Holmes. Tom Cruise was acting quite foolish on the Oprah show a few weeks back. And that is putting it nicely.
I liked her in the Corny Dawson's Creek soap but I do not see her as a great actress. She seems to be the same character in everything I've seen her in thus far.
I am going to see batman but I am not looking forward to a great performance from her.
She will always be "Joey Potter" to me.</div> -
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Tom Cruise & Katie Holmes Get Engaged
by sandy in<div>just wondering what some of your thoughts on this are.
i shouldn't care but i do.
but i'll save my negative, non-sense comments for later.</div>
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sandy
<div>Just wondering what some of your thoughts on this are. I shouldn't care but I do.
But I'll save my negative, non-sense comments for later.</div> -
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My Mother
by funes ini was disfellowshipped when i was 16, it really isn't clear because i stopped going to meetings, left home, etc.
i was 28 before i truly stopped believing and have grown to love every day of life i've had the privilege to live.
my mother was a missionary, my brother lives at one of the farms, one of my sisters is a special pioneer overseas and my other sister is a special pioneer in the states.. .
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sandy
<div>I really don't know what to say but I definitely feel for you.
Is your mother open-minded? Is she capable of keeping the visits secret? It is so sad and frustrating that this is such a problem. You are no alone and hope you find others in like situations that can be of help to you.</div> -
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I am coming out of the CLOSET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by whyamihere inha ha ha ha i knew i would get you with that one.. actually, this morning my kids locked me in the closet.
i could not get out for the life of me.
i sat there telling them to let me out as they laughed at me.
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sandy
RR I am with you too. I don't believe you hate your mother. You are young and probably have a lot of anger to work through.
My mom wasn't mother of the year either, not even close. It's hard to truly forgive her because like Chia's mother, my mom always offers excuses for her bad parenting.
All i want is a sincere apology that says I was Wrong and I am sorry. No excuses! That is what get my blood boiling.
But I learned to accept her half-ass apologies and get on with my life. I love her and feel bad for her bad childhood. That is what helps me understand and put myself in check when bad feelings about her arise. -
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Do you ever think that you will stop JW-bashing and get on with your life?
by booker-t ini was recently talking to a girl in my psychology class who told me that she use to be a jw and was df'd in the mid 1990's.
this girl shocked me because usually ex-jws are so unhappy and miserable and spend most of their time complaining about the "evil" wt society.
she told me that when she was df'd alot of ex-jws swarmed towards her trying to get her to "bash" the wt but she refused.
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sandy
Booker T, I agree with your friend and I hope to one day finally feel completely free of the org.
That may not be possible though. Just as abused people get on and stop being a victim they can never forget the abuse they suffered. And they feel compelled to help others.
It is good for us to move on but not forget. We can still live productive lives and help others who need support. Those newly out or those who want out.
Yes some of us are bitter, angry, lonely, sad, but many of us are also happy or at least on the right track to happiness and true peace of mind. The point is we are all in different places. It is easy for us to sit in judgement of others and say "you are just bitter, get over it." But it's important that we remember we have not walked in the shoes of the other person.