Posts by Descender

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Reason for getting disfellowshipped.

by greendawn in

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what were you all disfellowshipped for?

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perhaps a frequent topic overall but i never happened to notice it.

Descender

Not true Grissom. From my own experience, the first time I was disfellowshipped I was truly repentant. I went to the elders myself, confessed falling into fornication, and then profusely apologized over and over and told them that I'd make any changes necessary to improve my spiritual condition. I truly believed what I was saying at the time and a felt sorry. I know what my heart felt and I thought I did a good job at the time or relaying that message to the elders. I was hoping for forgivness. My sins were unknown to the public and I actually wanted reproof. But what I got instead were condesending elders that told me they didn't think that I was repentant and one told me that I could consider myself a prostitute against Jehovah.

If I hadn't been disfellowshipped that first time, I'm very doubtfull that I would have ever questioned the teachings of the society and I'd probably be a good ministerial servant or elder somewhere. So, really in hindsight, I'm pretty glad that they did get the ball rolling by showing me how unforgiving they really are.

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Would you help a dub?

by greendawn in

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friends

if a dub needed your help as in a medical emergency or in getting employment/job contract or in getting your support in a dispute with someone on a non religious issue or in some other way such as in a car break down would you help them?

Descender

I'd be willing to help anyone, including a dub, if they were in need. If it was the only job they could get in the area and their lively-hood depended on it, and I could help them, then I would. I don't hate them, they're just people on a mis-guided course like I once was.

But the question did remind me of an event about 5 years ago. My ex-wife (not ex at that time) and I were both df'd and trying to get back in for our families. We'd been going to the local meetings for about a month. It was a Thursday night Theocratic Ministry school and we left right at the end of the prayer as usual. About 50 yards down the road out of the kingdom hall parking lot my car sputtered to a stop on the side of the road. I'd run out of gas. It was a chilly night and the nearest gas station was a little over a mile down the road. So my wife and I walked in our dress clothes beside the road down to the gas station as all the witnesses drove by. Not one offered a ride or asked what was wrong. It was one of the best anti-witnesses I ever had.

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World of Warcraft

by Valis in

anyone else playing?

this game totally rocks!

only problem i am having is overheating.

Descender

I've been playing it for a little over a month now. Got a lvl 43 Tauren Shaman on the Gorronash PVP server by the name of Descender. Shamans kick ass. I played EQ for 4 years and this game is more fun as far as I'm concerned.

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The Powers Of Darth Vader....test his powers here.....

by EvilForce in

check out this link and think of an object...and darth vader will tell you what it is.

he got mine right....i thought of carrot the 1st and beer the 2nd time.

lol .

Descender

Let's see, he got tomato in 16 tries. He got Pug Dog in 19 tries. He got toe in 21 tries. But could never come close to getting "Darth Vader" in 31 tries.

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KM article -tip minimum 15%

by stillajwexelder in

we got a command at the service meeting tonight - the km article on the summer district conventions said if we are dining out we really should tip 15-20% minmum -this was repeated twice = good to know the witnesses are getting less tight

Descender

If the place where you work does not offer a living wage DON'T TAKE THE JOB

It's not always that easy to be picky. When I was putting myself through college I couldn't take a day job because of my class schedule. In my area, that left me with minimum wage night jobs or serving jobs at resturaunts that all (every single one out close to 100 sit-down resturaunts in the vicinity) paid $2.13 an hour plus tips. I took my chances and went to work as a server at Chilis and worked there for 4 years. When I started out, I sucked. I had worked at numerous hard labour jobs as a witness doing things such as building scaffolding, laying concrete driveways, drywall, and landscaping, but waiting tables was definitely the most stressfull job I've ever had, even considering my current job. But no one knows that there is actually a lot involved unless they've been there.

Most people seemed to think servers make minimum wage. I figure the only way to change the apropos is for all servers to go on strike for a higher wage, which would get the word out about what the wage really is. But, of course, the majority don't have the time or the funds to subsidize what it'd take to organize such an effort. And it most likely wouldn't work, because the resturaunts would just hire a brand new batch of people that were willing to work for $2.13 plus tips to replace those that were unhappy. So go figure.

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Apostates and dubs in the same restaurant!!!!

by unbeliever in

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a small group of us who grew up together try and get together every few months.

we went to this mexican restaurant and there was a group of witnesses there.. the tension was so thick.

one of the guys there saw 2 elders who served on his jc.

Descender

Hahah, that's a funny experience. Reminds of when I was working at a resturaunt as a server when I was disfellowshipped. A group of witnesses that I knew very well were sat in my section. I went and laid their silverware out for them and asked them what they would like, silence ....... waiting ..... waiting ..... they all just looked down at the table. Finally the oldest of the group, a ministerial servant came up with an idea - he would be the spokesman for the group so the others wouldn't have to speak to me. So he started with what he wanted to eat and then would ask what the guy next to him would like, that guy would tell him and he would tell me, so on and so on. It was utter ridiculousness.

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Strange Dream... I woke up in 1989

by Elsewhere in

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i just had the strangest dream.

in the dream i went to bed tonight but when i awoke in the morning it was 1989 and i was still in high school.

i was in my younger body but with all of my current knowledge.

Descender

Strange subject since I went to bed last night and the year was 2021 and I was 45, but I woke up this morning and I'm 29 again. Now I know exactly what's going to happen for the next 15 years, I'm going to make sure people are cleared out when those big natural disasters hit. And I know exactly which companies are going to hit it big and I can invest in their stock. Whew, and now I know which girls not to date. I'm so lucky.

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Jehovah's Witnesses GET CRAZY!!

by GetBusyLiving in

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friends

do you guys know any very obviously crazy jw's?

i've noticed that they have been "flocking" to the org.

over the past few years especially.

Descender

I was once given the honor of bringing a blind mentally handicapped man to the meeting. He was a study and it was his first meeting and the DO was in town giving the Sunday talk. I didn't want to sit by him, because it was obvious he was a nut, but nobody else would sit by him, so I ended up being the lucky one. All through the meeting, everytime a baby would cry or a child would act up, he'd progressively get louder and louder complaining about the fact that there was no day care or Sunday school for the kids.

Finally, during the DO's talk, he stood up and yelled, "shut your god damned kids up, if you can't take care of them, I will!" I had to grab him and put him back in his seat as he started to take his belt off and wander to the sound of the child, and he almost fell into the isle. I was horribly embarrased, but the DO kept going with his talk and everyone else pretended nothing had happened.

At the close of the meeting, I wanted to get him out of there as quick as possible, but he wanted to talk to his study conductor who happened to be a black lady. As they talked, I saw a wierd expression form on his face. As I was helping him to the door, he said, "Oh my god, is she a ni****?" I told him she's black. He then said, "I can't believe I let a f'n monkey in my house." It was all I could do not to punch a blind retarded man in the nose. But I just took him home in silence and never ever agreed to bring anyone I didn't know to a meeting again.

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Allosaurus & Eve ...

by Taylor S. in

i was always fascinated with dinosaurs as a kid.

i remembering asking my mother how come the bible doesn't mention the dinosaurs ... i mean, if he created everything, he must've created the dinosaurs.

why no mention?

Descender

I know some witnesses don't believe in dinosaurs at all. When I visited New York ten years ago with some of my friends (ei. helping a friend move to Bethel), we visited the Museum of Natural History. While reading one of the displays in front of a stegosaurus I saw one of my friends laughing and I asked him what was funny. He said these dinosaur displays were stupid because, of course, dinosaurs never existed especially millions of years ago. This was the first time I'd ever heard something so stupid. I asked him how he figured that and he told me that the earth was no older than 6000 years old, so it was pretty much an impossibility, plus he figured it was just a conspiracy to downplay the relevance of the Bible and that scientists just made this stuff up.

I figured that maybe he was just retarded and didn't think to much of it until a few years later when I was working with another brother, a ministerial servant. He asked me about my future plans, and I told him that I'd always been interested in archeology and paleontology. He told me not to pursue an education in such things because Satan was controlling the government to inculcate the population with the idea that the earth had been around for millions of years and that dinosaurs had populated the earth, when in reality the earth was only 6000 years old and dinosaurs were obviously just another satanic conspiracy to control the masses.

So, from my experiences, there seems to be some witnesses that don't believe dinosaurs ever existed.

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What's your greatest coincidence?

by ozziepost in

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well, haven't you had things happen and you just know they're not accidental ...... or are they?

some people don't 'believe' there are such things as coincidences but whatever, what's the greatest of coincidences that has ever happened to you?

kinda like "what's the most coincidental of coincidences", eh?

Descender

Heheh, this one is one that my Mom always told me and was probably one of the reasons I stuck around, being a witness as long as I did.

I was a baby and my parents lived in a mobile home park. My parents had been searching for a religion for awhile because they wanted me to have a christian up-bringing. Anyway, one day my mom was praying that god would show her the true religion. Right after she said those words, she heard a knock on the door. Guess who, of course it was two witnesses at the door. Later they told my mom that they had felt a strong need to come to that particular mobile home, because they weren't even doing that territory and were coming home from service when the need to go to my parents house was just too strong to ignore.

Coincidence? I would think it was more likely an exaggeration of what really happened so as to upbuild other witnesses and keep them around longer. The couple that came and talked to my mom that went to Bethel and the husband was later disfellowshipped for adultry with another married sister there. And him and his, then wife, were both kicked out of Bethel.

Another coincidence was a little strange happened last year. The first girl I dated after my wife and I seperated had been engaged to a guy before she went out with me. I found out after I'd known her for a little while that her ex-fiance had the same last name as my first name, which isn't that common, he'd been married 5 years just like I had, his birthday was the exact same as mine, and he was the same age as me as well. Kinda weird.