Posts by gitasatsangha

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What if the UN fell apart?

by undercover in

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the wts has incessently preached about the wild beast being the un and how the anglo-saxon world power of america-great britain was the force behind it.

what if the un was to fold?

looking at world events this weekend, i wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

gitasatsangha

The International Olympic Committee will become the wild beast.

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What if the UN fell apart?

by undercover in

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friends

the wts has incessently preached about the wild beast being the un and how the anglo-saxon world power of america-great britain was the force behind it.

what if the un was to fold?

looking at world events this weekend, i wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

gitasatsangha

they'd make some more teachings and call it "New Light."

There are far more important issues about a weak UN then how it affects JW theology.

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George Bush's excuse is good enough for me !

by searchfothetruth in

i am really excited by george bush's latest reason for bombing iraq: he's running out of patience.

for some time now i've been really pi##ed off with mr johnson, who lives a couple of doors down the street.

well, him and mr patel, who runs the health food shop.they both give me queer looks, and i'm sure mr johnson is planning something nasty for me, but so far i haven't been able to discover what.. i've been round to his place a few times to see what he's up to, but he's got everything well hidden.

gitasatsangha

Saddam was not elected by popular vote.

Shrub was not elected by popular vote.

Saddam has WMDs.

Shrub has WMDs.

Saddam supports human bombs in Palestine.

Shrub supports bulldozing protestors in Palestine.

Saddam believes God is on his side.

Shrub believes God is on his side.

Saddam prefers to eschew world treaties and the UN.

Shrub prefers to eschew world trieates and the UN.

Saddam has major petroleum interests.

Shrub has major petroleum interests.

Saddam has overseen the wreckage of his nation's economy.

Shrub has overseen the wreckage of his nation's economy.

Saddam pushed for a nonprovocational attack on another sovreign nation.

Shrub is still pushing for the same.

Saddam keeps his nation at a fever pitch of war to keep his popularity level going.

Shrub: ditto.

"That "Thou Shalt Not Kill" thing? I meant that." -God, in an Onion interview.

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Making the break

by Gracie in

i am currently a jw but am having a bit of difficulty with it at the moment.

i have always been a bit 'badly inclined' i got married at the tender age of 17 (crazy!

) to a bit of a rebel (a jw but a rebel all the same!

gitasatsangha

If you don't believe in the JW religion, at least fade. Because you have already made decisions in your mind. Trying to remain a JW will be a slow torment, and in the end, you will leave anyway. So you have freedom to do whatever you want. If you can fade away, probably you won't be bothered much. You can build up real friendships and interests and learn what freedom is all about, during that time. I'm DA'd, and I can't say that it bothers me, but I can see how it would be a terrible thing for some. Either way, best of luck to you.

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JWs and extracurricular activities

by MoeJoJoJo in

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jw children miss out on so much.

i was raised as a jw and there were so many school activities that i wanted to participate in but was not allowed.

i remember my gym teacher encouraging me to go out for soccer, i asked my parents if i could and of course i knew the answer would be no even before i asked.

gitasatsangha

I regret some things. In some ways though, it did make us kids more crafty.

I had a JW girlfriend (her dad was an elder, her mom was Betty Crocker. We had chaperoned events, skating rinks once a month, etc.) just so I could have a cover to date "wordly girls". One day watching some PG movie with an afghan over us in the same room as her parents (thank God for poor heating) I discovered the JW gf had some righteous and subtle hand skills. Hallelujah and pull down the shirt front! Never did go to a prom though. To this day I wonder what a prom is like.

The sports thing really bothered me. I was going to be in the swim team untill my parents had a lack of heart about it. I knew in the end I might have been able to make it work, even so, but being in school sports requires some kind of parental support and they offered nada. They used that method to clear the conscience about a lot of JW bs they didnt agree with. Such as: "You can take the SAT and ACT tests if you want, son, but you will have to pay for it yourself. Why not just learn a trade? Get a job with Dad in the factory." I had a friend that played HS tennis with the same problem.. lack of support. They wouldnt condemn his choice, but they wouldn't risk their neck either. It's a pity. He was excellent. He might have gotten a scholarship.

The elder's cracked down on unsupervised gatherings, but you can only supress a group of people so far. A bunch of us from several congregatons would pay a janitor at some elementary school to let us have the gym some nights. Full court round-ball, very competitive. Gatorade commercial stuff! Those are some good memories. Finally the elders got wind of it, and started to supervise these gatherings. Yet another thing ruined.

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Damage Control

by gitasatsangha in

i had a close friend who left the borg before i did.

when it he made his choice, i was still having my own doubts.

but, the way he left was so abrupt, i did about the worst thing i ever have.

gitasatsangha

I had a close friend who left the Borg before I did. When it he made his choice, I was still having my own doubts. But, the way he left was so abrupt, I did about the worst thing I ever have. He came to my door to say goodbye (he was leaving town, also) and I guess to try and make his peace. I wouldnt let him in. I cussed him out even. I was so angry at him for leaving the JWs I wanted to attack him right there on my doorstep. He left, and we didn't speak for many years. Almost from that day on, I hated what I had done, but there was no one to speak with about it. Some bridges you burn.

I recently was able to meet my old friend again. I have apologized and we stay in contact now. Still, I think that day will always remain. What I did, I don't even think I can blame the Watchtower for. I regret it constantly.

Have any of you all ever chose the org over a friend in need? How do you reconcile this and move on?

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G.W. Bush Quotes

by William Penwell in

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subject: fw: "don't misunderestimate george bush".

"the vast majority of our imports come from outside the country.

"if we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.

gitasatsangha

http://www.bible-reading.com/gore.html

I suspect these quotes will continue to be attributed to whoever is unpopular. People are basically opportunistic liars.

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My Testimony

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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my testimony

by undisfellowshipped ( [email protected] ).

i was born and raised by my parents to believe in the beliefs of the jehovah's witnesses organization.

gitasatsangha

A fanatic is a fanatic is a fanatic. I can not accept any system of belief which says it is the only true path. That is where so much suffering and trouble comes from in the world. Forget all the mumbo jumbo and just try to get along. If what works for you is good, that's great. I'm glad you found a path. Now get it out of my face.

Hari \

-Gita

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