some pretty strange things happened approaching the end of my marriage and my exit from jws: 1) it was the time of the new elder arrangement. my husband (the ex-bethelite) was being considered for elder. one sunday after the meetings the "committee" called my husband into a meeting. he came out of it about an hour later shaken and told me they forbade him from telling me the reason for the meeting. i kept questioning him -- as something was radically wrong -- and a couple of days later he told me they accused him of improper conduct (fondling he said) towards a number of female members of the congregation, --- but he said it was all lies and they were out to get him and he didn't know why. 2) i began to rage at the committee, how dare they. and i wrote a long scathing letter to the society detailing the lies aimed at my husband and pleading for intervention. if i recall correctly we were both pioneering at the time. 3) after showing this letter to my husband he said i couldn't send it, and the accusations were true. i absolutely did not believe him, so sure was i of his innocence. he said finally, well just ask "M". i did. she confirmed that my husband had made advances toward her and she rebuffed him and said she would tell no one out of respect and love for me. 4) in shock i then put him through the 3rd degree, wanting all the information, etc. some of the women were friends, some were "new" members of the flock, i.e. women who were recipients of shepherding calls, some not even yet baptized, and there were several. for the most part they were women who were in vulnerable circumstances. it made me absolutely crazy to think that he would want to fool around with all of these women in some sort of retarded way, yet he would avoid any contact with me that could be classified as intimate and normal.. i think back now to various other red flags. he always wanted to spend time with a sister who had two younger sisters, 8 and 9 years old. he loved to be with them. they were just developing and he kept remarking about it. one day he said he was attracted to them and other young girls, in fact the younger the better. i really did not understand it at the time and just blew it off.... but now i wonder, i wonder..... i guess i will never know the real story. i was told some years ago that he had remarried and gone "back into the truth". i have not seen him nor had contact with him for 30 years, but i just wonder.....
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was my first husband a pedophile?
by nowisee insome pretty strange things happened approaching the end of my marriage and my exit from jws:
1) it was the time of the new elder arrangement.
my husband (the ex-bethelite) was being considered for elder.
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When at the convention ; Top reasons for going
by free2beme ini was thinking about this the other day, and wondering what others felt about the district convention.
namely, what was the main thing you wanted from it?
a few i remember were these.. 1. number one every single year was that i wanted new information on when armageddon was coming and how close we were to the end.
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nowisee
same as above.... but also i remember the large yankee stadium conventions and hearing, particularly freddy franz and knorr speak. freddy was usually funny, knorr was often booming and condemnatory. we always felt so superior being part of this group. we were the "in crowd". it was also always thrilling to see the gates opened on a sunday afternoon for keynote speech when there were overflow crowds and seeing everyone stream onto the ballfield and fill every open space. the orchestra was always playing majestic music (not kingdom songs) and it could be very emotional and easy to get caught up in "groupthink".
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Some apostates are more equal than others...
by slimboyfat inever noticed that the most cleverest apostates are the ones that were "brought up in the truth"?
i mean people like little toe, leolaia and narkissos who provide the most intelligent dicsussions on the forum - they never chose the witnesses, but were dragged up in it.
do you think maybe they can't help but look down on the rest of us who were stupid enough to actually choose to become witnesses?
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i thought my father was a brilliant man. he was the one who became jw in the l930's, became "congregation servant", subsequently met and converted my mother and of course brought his children up jw. i sometimes wonder whether his conversion hinged more on political issues initially -- he was totally opposed to war and had been attending pacifist meetings before becoming jw. anyway, he was the one in the family who first exited the wts. guess what. maybe not all at once, but we all followed. so was he smart or was he dumb?
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Wow~ click on this topic it's important!
by beautifulisfree inso the other day my family and i were surfing the net...and came upon this and other websites about the use of subliminal messages in the j.w.
books and magazines.
the web sight below is one of the better ones and creepy ones!!
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nowisee
i had a photographer customer who used to come into my store. he had his photographs in a number of museums. when i knew him he was taking a lot of pictures of nature, black and white, of trees, ponds, sort of ala ansel adams. he started using the mirror on his photos and ALL kinds of things showed up. i agree with elsewhere.
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Has it ever just hit you that......
by LyinEyes inhas it ever just hit you that you need to crawl out of the hole you have been in and that you didnt even notice it?
just a couple of days ago, i awoke to the feeling of needing to change some things.
most of you know that i lost my sister right before xmas and that hit me hard, knocked me to my knees and i honestly think that is where i have been for awhile.
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hello dede, i have not been around...when i do come here lately is is just sporadically, and i know i miss a lot.... i did not know of your sister's death and i just want you to know i am truly sorry...i have lost a sibling too and i know the feelings of helplessness and if only's... just know that you have my condolences... and by all means life goes on.... my best to you, nowisee
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Former sisters, remember the pant suit controversy in the seventies?
by Sunnygal41 ini was in my late 'teens, working for my own money, and polyester pant suits were all the rage in fashion.
working at mc'donald's, i was able to afford two nice matching suits, with the jacket and vest, and a matching shirt...........these i wore to meetings, when i went.
then, the jw grapevine went into action, regarding the suitablity for a sister to be wearing pants at a meeting.
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hey fandorn -- that IS weird! just goes to show how twisted the reasoning.... ironically this is the issue that pushed me over the edge and showed me clearly that the jw elders (at least in my cong) were just pharisees... i asked my po if he thought it was alright for me to wear pantsuits in the cold ne winters where we just froze.....he said yes....i said i would write a letter to wts ...he said NO!!!!! what would they think of me? i soon left to wear warmer clothes..... best wishes, nowisee
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How weird is this?
by Mulan ini had an eye exam recently, expecting to need a new prescription.
for about the 4th time in a row, my eyes have improved.
the eye doctor told me that if i was a new eye patient, he would tell me i didn't need glasses.. i've worn them since i was 16 and i am now 60. i have astigmatism, but he said it is so slight, that i could easily get by with the lowest correction in reading glasses.. he said i didn't need to get new glasses unless i wanted to get some.
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hi mulan! how are you? my eyes are improving too. my myopia is clearing up, but now i nead reading glasses and have them all over the house. so, who will win apprentice? i think the brit. best wishes, nowisee
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Do you have a motto in life?
by lovelylil indoes anyone out there have any wise words for us to live by?
a favorite motto?
please share your wisdom if you don't mind.
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if you always do what you've always done you will always get what you've always got.
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Have you ever had a premonition ?
by troubled mind ini think i have a few times in my life, but the one i had most recently really shook me up.
it was really a re-occuring thought and feeling more than anything else .i preceived it as something happening to me when in reality it happened to some one close to me.
it sounds stupid , doesn't it ?
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age 11. prior to first tm school talk. i thought i would fall off the platform because of my new slippery shoes. i did.