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  What if she never leaves JWs? (The interminable waiting period...)

  by AuldSoul in

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  this has nothing to do with whether i love my wife.

  i always will.. pragmatically, i have come to the devastating conclusion that i don't want to be married to a jw.

  any jw.. she asked me last night, "so, do you believe in santa clause, now?

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  ((((AS))))

  On the second point, that is what I am trying to puzzle out. I had not thought it was possible until this past week. The "Santa" dig was last night.

  Well, it seems she is willing to have "spiritual conversations" with you as long as they are barbs at you.

  I fully agree with Satanus that you cannot allow her to be disrespectful to you. If she is going to be afforded the ability to vent her frustrations, insist on boundaries of respect--and that you also have the same rights and boundaries to vent. Fair is fair, and if she doesn't like fair, well, you are the head of the household (if you want to play tough). It's fair or nothing.

  Waiting is always an uncertain game. It seems that some spouses take many years to come around. Respect for you might be the marriage preservative you need during these cold months before spring.

  bebu

  Edited to add: I was typing this while you were posting!
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  Elder's wife nosing in... need help with a letter

  by merfi in

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  hey all.

  i read through my 10yo open msn window where she was chatting with the elder's wife... a few of the highlights are:.

  do you think you might like to come to a meeting sometime?

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  Since it is unclear about what the boundaries have been before this chat, I don't know if you can really say that it could be considered attempted kidnapping or coercion. Offering to pick someone up to go somewhere is not inherently illegal--unless there was the knowledge that doing so would be going against a prohibition she knew about.

  "Didn't you know we'd miss you?" What an idiotic comment from people who are causing the "missing". Does that imply, though, that you (her mom) were not necessarily missed? Be sure your daughter understands how manipulative it is for them to 'woo' her, while treating you so shamefully.

  I would sternly reply that your daughter is forbidden to communicate with people, whether online, on the phone, in a KH, or anywhere else, who refuse to also talk freely with you. That is, you do not trust the motives of people who cannot/will not talk freely with you. Let this woman know you therefore forbid her to contact your daughter (and any other child), and will not hesitate to inform authorities if she continues.

  I hope your daughter feels a justified anger about your treatment, and doesn't feel swayed by the sweet attention. I hope she is able to say clearly and simply to anyone who has cut you off: "If you refuse to speak to my mom, I refuse to speak with you."

  ( @ the elder's wife)

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  The Best One-liners for Witnesses

  by gordon d in

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  what have been the most effective reasons that you've given to the people that you love for why you're no longer a witness?

  considering that most dubs have the attention span of a 2 year old for anything from an a-prostate, please be consise and succint with your answers.

  just trying to plant some seeds of reasoning.... maybe in-depth discussions with those folks will come at a later time.

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  Hi gordon,

  Never been a witness, but the basic reason I give for why I can't convert ultimately comes to: can't compromise my integrity!

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  Still learning from my 8 year old.. :)

  by FreedomFrog in

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  i was having a very hard time getting my assignment completed from last sunday that i was getting discouraged.

  i was already a day late with it from not knowing how to form the essay.

  i would sit here at the computer doing my research, reading over the chapters, staring at the screen and i still couldn't form my 700-1,500 word essay.

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  What a good kid, and so nice to know he's actually been LISTENING!!

  "Take it in pieces" is good advice for nearly every problem. "Tear it to pieces" is what may happen otherwise!

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  Harry Potter

  by puppylove in

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  so, has anyone read these books, and if so, what do you think?

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  Snape didn't kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore is not dead. Snape and Dumbledore planned the whole thing to have Voldemort and his followers believe that he was out of the way... Can't wait for the last book!

  How I wish this were true! But according to JKR herself, Dumbledore is "definitely dead".

  http://www.hpana.com/news.19531.html

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  Harry Potter

  by puppylove in

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  so, has anyone read these books, and if so, what do you think?

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  Chris, you have a mind like a trap. There are so many details in those books that I always have to re-read the last book just before the next sequel comes. And then I just remember the results and the major events, not the 'minor' (and obviously quite important) details. Chris, do you visit any particular websites or boards online for discussions about it? If so, what would you recommend?

  BTW have you figured out why Dumbledore trusted Snape so much?

  Aaaargh. I think I did, once upon a time. Now I can't recall!! You wanna spill the beans--or give a hint? Or are you just trying to torment me?? The reason Dumbledore gave was that Snape had taken measures to show he had given up on the deatheaters. But that is far too general to be interesting at all.

  "Stopper in death.".. Hmmmmm! Only thing is, Dumbledore may not have been aware of what Snape was actually up to, since (as I recall) he resisted Snape--pleaded with him not to say the spell... Anyway, I think that is a very intriguing theory!

  Harry Potter is so much fun, I hope we don't spoil the plot for others. But even if one already knows the plot, the books are SO much fun nonetheless, they are like a roller coaster ride. Again, I highly recommend it! A great combination of mystery and fantasy, humor and drama.

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  Harry Potter

  by puppylove in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so, has anyone read these books, and if so, what do you think?

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  It's a very enjoyable series! The format allows all kinds of events and turns in the story which a non-magical background could not allow. It is fun for fantasy, and unless you already are attracted to real witchcraft, this won't get you there. I say, enjoy it!

  Forscher, if she does have Harry killed, it will NEED to be in a very noble way in order to make it more bearable to fans. I think it will also resolve the threat of future 'Voldemorts'. It will also mean that Hermione ends up with Ron. (I nearly feel that it would be more tragic if Ron got killed off, since Harry's death will be so productive! ) I am expecting an INTERESTING ending which doesn't need to rely primarily on the "magic" powers of love to make the story ending work.

  And of course, with Harry effectively gone, she won't have to write any more in this series.

  BTW, I have strong suspicions that Severus could actually be a good guy, despite having killed Dumbledore. He didn't kill Harry off when he had the chance, which was very, very odd... and Rowling always leads you one way and surprises you from the other side.

  I wonder if she will use the 'time turner' thing to twist the plotline in the last novel...

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  Learning to Substitute JW terms and phrases for REAL ones, for example. . .

  by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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  a hoho might say: you have a bad attitude, i can't associate w/ you.

  a real person might say: you're having a bad day, can i help?.

  a hoho might say: i'm a pioneer.

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  dubs: "ones"; real life: "people", "folks", "guys" etc.

  dubs: "meeting" or "congregation"; real life: "church"

  dubs: "I will wait on jehovah"; real life: "I haven't a clue why such an amazing contradiction exists"
  (OR, in the case of uncovering pedophilia, "I'm calling the cops!")

  dubs: "sister" "brother"; real life: "Jane" "John"

  dubs: "faithful and discreet slave"; real life: "dictator"

  dubs: "Jehovah"; real life:

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  Have any of you ever read this account?? How do they explain this away??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  2. bible

  good morning and "happy saturday" everyone!!.

  i've noticed recently alot of discussion on b-days.

  i just posted this on another thread, but then thought it deserves its own thread so more may benefit by reading it.. some time ago my mom told me about a entire town that was murdered as a wedding presents by a pharoh for his daughter who married king solomon.

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  I have known may JW families (including my own) who have had turkey for dinner on Thanksgiving Day. They said that they were not really celebrating it; but were merely having this large family dinner at a convenient time.

  I spent Thanksgiving at an elder's house once, eating turkey dinner "because it's on sale at the market and everyone has the day off".

  It's the THANKING GOD part that they want to avoid, ya know!! They don't want to acknowledge that people outside of the WTS can please God in any way at all, so they'd rather refrain from simply being thankful entirely!

  A little off-topic (sorry), but we had my JW friend over a couple years back on T-day. It was my family's turn to host the meal, and we had an incredible feast and a very lavish table setting. Before we sat down to eat, we held hands, stood in a circle and went around and shared one thing we felt especially grateful to God for. We recited events, friendships, good news, etc. Very Satanic, of course. Except for this "giving thanks" with us, she participated as a member in my family. We had a marvelous dinner, full of wine, music, and laughter. She reluctantly excused herself to leave in order to go to the mandatory JW business meeting... Too bad. (She did come back later for pumpkin pie, though! She took leftovers home, too!)

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  Mom nearly ate me alive!

  by Anony-Mouse in

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  we had a major talk about jws today.

  i couldn't use the un or pedophiles, as this is 'outside' information, and she would never belive me.

  then she would question my source, and i'd be killed by elder firing squad.

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  Hi a-m,

  2 thoughts:

  1) does she know you are online? Or are you expected to stay only on a few sites? I would suggest taking that evolution book and looking up its quotes and references (or find out who else has already done it and posted it online). I believe that this book has misrepresented several scientists. Show her where, and you can prove that the WTS is not being honest to its readers. It is being deceptive. (BTW, the trinity booklet is basically a booklet of misquotes.)

  2) If you are allowed to go online, find a good reason for explaining how you discovered the http://www.reexamine.org/quotes website, and show it to her. If you are unfamiliar with it, check it out and you will find a treasure trove of ONLY WTS materials... sorted by subject so that you can see how unstable they are. That can also help shore up your points re 1914. If they are wrong about so many things, why follow them at all?

  bebu