Posts by Daniel1555

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our secret dating got caught...

by trueloveneverfails94 in

we both are 21 years old.

i am almost done with my study and working on to become one of an unbaptized publisher.

Daniel1555

Welcome and all the best for your fresh love.

You 2 have to secretly and innocently hold hands and are afraid of JW consequences!!

Isn't the fact that you have to do this secretly already a sign, that something is not quite right in JW land?

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I dont know how i can leave my family!

by BlackWolf in

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my mom and i were talking today about how next summer i will be 18 and she said that just thinking about it might make her cry.

that made me think about how much more it would hurt her if i quit being a jw.

i really do love my parents, i know they are just being cruelly manipulated by a cult and that they really think they are doing what is best for me.

Daniel1555

You seem a very loving person, caring for the feelings of your parents. That's wonderful.

Focus right now on your education, to be able to live once on your own and be financially stable. Make strong friendships with loving and caring persons who are no JWs (there are many).

Don't be sad for your parents if you leave home to be on your own. That's just normal, also that your parents might be a bit sad and would wish that you always remain their little girl. But their little girl is adult now, which means freedom for you to make decisions in your life. You ARE always their girl, and there should be a loving bond between you and your parents for all your life. At least try everything in your power to do that.

You can fade, get disfellowshipped or disassociate. I think no matter which way you choose, your parents will realize that your faith changed. Of course that would make them sad, but they will cope.

I had open discussions with my parents about all the things in JW land that I couldn't deal with anylonger (blood, shunning, child abuse, cruelties committed by Jah in the bible ...). Finally I was disfellowshipped because of my differing views. It made my mum sad, but she learned to accept, that I have to live according to my conscience. I still have a normal and great relationship with my parents. They don't listen to the shunning rules, because they don't approve of them too. Of course I was lucky. Other parents react differently.

I suggest you to live YOUR life, be happy and joyful, try hard to do good (maybe use your freetime that you get from not doing field service to do volunteer work for helping others, furthering human rights, animal rights, whatever you like) so your parents see that you do good even though you are not doing jw stuff. Form new friendships and allow love in your life.

Every parent needs to learn to let their children make their own life decisions. Also I need to do that one day (my son is 3 years old now).

I am sure your parents will learn that too and will be proud of you as you are a very loving and caring person.

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Any weapons enthusiasts here?

by Wonderment in

i knew i had a couple of firearms around the house, and one in the car.

however, i didn't realize i had seven, yes, seven of them, when i proceeded to count them.

the reason for that is that i haven't gone to the shooting range in years.

Daniel1555

I hope you don't have a toddler...

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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

by Ghiagirl in

well it finally happened!

we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

Daniel1555

If you help them you heap firy coals on them, to use bible language.

I would help them if their request is reasonable and be especially kind.

Tell them kindly that you are there for them and that they miss a great deal when they have no contact with you or their grandchild.

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Pro Gun Florida mom shot by 4 year old son

by Witness 007 in

loaded gun under her car seat was picked up off the floor and the kid shot her in the back...the day before on facebook she boasted about his shooting skills.

what is wrong with this picture?

Daniel1555

There is no end to their stupidity.

And that's not only an isolated case. Last year a 2 year old in the US shot his mum and she was dead.

Yes, arm everyone and you are perfectly safe against terrorists or burglars...

... but shot by curious toddlers!

40

Closer/death/Funerals

by Leela1 in

hello all i am fairly new to this site even though i have been da since i was 16 years old i am now 35 years old.

i have had very little contact with my family since i left maybe a handful of times over the years.

i thought i put the past behind me and moved on i have 4 amazing kids of my own really supportive partner and great friends who have become my family.

Daniel1555

Dear Leela

Your story is very moving and honestly I have tears in my eyes as I write now.

I am so happy that you survived this ordeal and that you are a wonderful mother to your 4 children.

You are a very loving and courageous person. I think it is so good that you forgave your dad. So no matter how he or your family reacts, I think it is important that you let them know.

I am myself your age (36) and I am df because of conscience reasons.

I am lucky because I had a very nice childhood as JW with loving parents. Even though I am df they treat me the same as before and we are very close.

I wish you and your family all the best and looking forward to read more of your posts.

Love

Daniel

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Is the WT’s Paradise Earth doctrine a delusion?

by deegee in

the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.

http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.

so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.

Daniel1555

You forgot. Jehovah will make a miracle.

Trust in him, you silly one with no faith ;-)

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Inviting disfellowshipped to the memorial

by wannaexit in

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i read in a european ex jw forum that this year they are making a special effort to invite not only the inactive but also a special effort is made to invite all disfellowshipped.

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i don't know if this as always been a common practice, or something started anew so they can boast about the numbers of attendees..

Daniel1555

If my family or any others invite me, i'll tell them: "Don't worry, I will commemorate Jesus death but in my way. Do you really think I will go there and be stared at but shunned by anyone?"

Then I would open a good bottle of wine and think how happy I am that I left this organisation.

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10 years in prison and 2,000 lashes for saying he was an Atheist

by fulltimestudent in

the tide of disbelief is rising and only fools think they can stop it.

but some are too stupid to understand that fact, as this news story from saudi arabia demonstrates:.

american ally saudi arabia is the perpetrator of this crime against humanity.

Daniel1555

Saudi Arabia is not very much different to IS concerning human rights.

My highest respect to everyone standing firm for their human rights in Saudi Arabia.

The same happened to Rafik Badawi, and he didn't even criticize Islam, just had a blog supporting free speech.

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My crazy experience, from pioneer to jail bird

by Nodoubter in

first let me introduce my self, i am a 33yo male show spent much of his youth in the jw cult, i was not raised into the truth however thought i found it at the age of 11 when a well caring brother knocked my door, i had no father figure so this brother was everything to me, like a father, i quickly began attending meetings even when my mom used to oppose, i was taken like an example kid because i was an "orphan" in the spiritual sense, i got baptized when i was 12, and spent the rest of my teenage years being this good kid everyone thought i was, i hated that attention and pressure however it felt good to be doing good things, when i was about to finish high school i started to get into punk and ska music, i used to listen to it in secret, one time an elder found out and went to my house when i wasnt there, he went into my room and took all my cds, this was my first time i felt like i was being invaded of my privacy, i was made to feel guilty for liking this music and lost all my priviledges..theres a lot more i can say but i will stick to the main points, i became a reg pioneer, i became an ms, the whole thing, living in new york allowed me to visit bethel many times and had many many friends there, at the head quarters and walkill, in my cong we had bethelite elders etc, so yeah i was "in the club" , i always had a doubt in the back of my mind if what i was doing was the right thing, i used to rent the basement out of en elders house, he is what made me turn, he was the mos unloving person i ever met, for instance he would turn off the heat during snow storms, sometimes due to my pioneering i had no food and he knew this, well no food from him etc.

yet all this time i thought i was doing the right thing, eventually i feel in love and started dating this beautiful pioneer girl, daughter of pioneer parents as well, i never felt fully excepted because of my spiritual orphan status and no family in the truth, eventually got to a point where i could not communicate with her and her parents used to pick up the calls, they told me i could not continue to pursue a relationship with her, i was devastated!

long story short i wanted to see her etc, they put a restraining order and labeled me a stalker, made a mistake of sending her an e-mail and well, that got me arrested!!

Daniel1555

Welcome no doubter.

How good it is to be out of this org and not having doubts about that.

I wish you a lot of joy and happiness in your way of life and looking forward to read more of your posts.