Ya...I used to think like that too. We are the only ones with the answers...the only ones with "the truth." Catholics have a change in policy or beliefs, it's PROOF they don't have God's backing.....FALSE PROPHETS!! The "Society" has a change in policy or beliefs, it's proof they DO have God's backing....Nu Light!!! All my friends, myself included....were driven by works........all about LOOK AT ME! My friends are now all Elders and moving up the Society chain....and they still make fun of and belittle people they feel are beneath them.......I'm sadly guilty of that too. It felt good to be included in something that was bigger than us! BUT..........once you start digging.....searching for real answers......there is no turning back. So ya.....searching for the real truth has left me with "a poor outlook spiritually speaking."
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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.
by Stand for Pure Worship inso i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?
and it made me think about this forum.
if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.
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Question About 607BCE and How That Date Was Picked - Help JW Scholars
by Comatose inso i've been sharing some a little at a time with my sister.
she is married and very scared of actually learning too much.
she doesn't want to ruin her marriage.
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What's funny is that he came up with the whole incorrect date of 607 BCE after he was pressured to step back from his pyramid claim of how he really came up with 1914:
"So, then, if we measure backward down the "First Ascending Passage" to its junction with the "Entrance Passage," we shall have a fixed date to mark upon the downward passage. This measure is 1542 inches, and indicates the year BC 1542, as the date at that point. Then measuring down the "Entrance Passage" from that point, to find the distance to the entrance of the "Pit," representing the great trouble and destruction with which this age is to close, when evil will be overthrown from power, we find it to be 3457 inches, symbolizing 3457 years from the above date, BC 1542. This calculation shows AD. 1915 as marking the beginning of the period of trouble; for 1542 years BC plus 1915 years AD. equals 3457 years. Thus the Pyramid witnesses that the close of 1914 will be the beginning of the time of trouble such as was not since there was a nation -- no, nor ever shall be afterward. And thus it will be noted that this "Witness" fully corroborates the' Bible testimony on this subject..." ( Charles Taze Russell, Thy Kingdom Come, Studies In The Scriptures, vol. 3, 1910 edition ).
The unknown or forgotten history was he was crazy about the occult and pyramids!!
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Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.
by The Quiet One ini struggled with this question before i got baptised.
what helped you to overcome any doubts?.
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Can You Be Disfellowshipped For Merely Repeating What Apostates Are Saying? Even If You Deny Belief In What Is Said?
by frankiespeakin insay a person wants to start making fellow jws think and open up their eyes so they decide to just repeat what they have read on some apostate site but deny any agreement with what read.
how many times do you think he could do it before being called into a committee, and eventually be disfellowshipped?.
how long could someone last playing that cat and mouse game walking on the edge repeating apostate criticism but denying agreement?.
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Ultimately YES, here is a capture from the Elders book in the chapter regarding deciding whether or not judiciary committees:
They leave it vague........if it is intentional or not....doesn't really matter
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WBATS BANS ANYTHING BESIDES THE WT! SMH
by ADJUSTMENTS init irks me when i read in the watchtower do not use secular sources or the internet to do research... but in that very same wt it will quote a secular source or literature to prove a point!
how hypocritical!!!
it's all apart of their limited information mind control!
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The R&F think and are trained to think that "they did all the research for us, so we don't have to!" Very sad and VERY controlling!!
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My mom just told me I was demonized! :p
by El_Guapo infunny story: back in march i was talking with mom on the phone.
the topic of how great the nwt was, compared to other bibles.
thanks to jwn, i said "o wouldn't be surprised if we had a new bible by this time next year.
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LOL You got more predictions right than they did!!!!
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A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17
by Stand for Pure Worship inthat text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.
second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.
you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.
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It's all about perception. ex-JW's aren't divided, each one thinks one crack is worse than the other. The cracks in the wall of WT are huge! Your crack could the blood issue....meaning, now we can accept "blood fractions" as part of medical treatment. How many lives were lost before this policy change? How many more could have been saved? But they died faithful right......so if a life is saved now from accepting blood fractions, they are deemed just as faithful because the GB took a vote on it and ruled it "OK" now?
Someone else's crack could be the change on voting. Did you know it's a matter of conscience now? How many lives could have been saved if this "new light" came in the late 60's.......when JW's were being butchered in Malawi? I guess they should have had that vote in NY sooner to save them.
My crack pretty much is 1914. Did you know that Charles Taze Russell first had the date for Christ's coming at 1874, based on measurements from the great Pyramid in Egypt? When that date came and went, he found a new passage in the pyramid, it added length or years as he thought, so the new date became 1914? They wanted something Bible based, so they played with numbers using a bad starting point of 607 BCE as the destruction of Jerusalem......but it was destroyed in 587 BCE, a date verified by historians and the WT themselves, ironically enough.
It's not divisions.......it's just too many directions to go............
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Movie - "Gravity" is a must see
by Comatose init was fantastic in imax 3d.
not a cheap fake computer fake 3d.
this was real 3d.
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Saw it the day it came out. YOU ALL MUST SEE IT ON IMAX! What an experiance!
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REACTION from my neck of the woods...
by problemaddict inas some of you may know i am in the midst of a fade, working on the family coming along (new thread to update there).
most mf my close friends are still jw's to varying degrees.
i would say most are couples that are around our age (25-35), and they attend maybe 90% of the meetings, go in service on sat, pioneer in april, and have a couple bible studies etc... in general the good kind.
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Problemaddict.....NO DOUBT!! All i've seen all friggin day is selfies on FB with the "new" bible. LMAO
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REACTION from my neck of the woods...
by problemaddict inas some of you may know i am in the midst of a fade, working on the family coming along (new thread to update there).
most mf my close friends are still jw's to varying degrees.
i would say most are couples that are around our age (25-35), and they attend maybe 90% of the meetings, go in service on sat, pioneer in april, and have a couple bible studies etc... in general the good kind.
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I heard the same thing....crying when they got the new bible......I guess the old one wasn't good enough!!
