They are selfish in their "we are the only true religion".
They are selfish in loving God (themselves)first and family second.
They are selfish in showing sympathy.
They are selfish in knowledge because they only have one sourse of information, WTBTS.
They are selfish in the way that they cast away DF'ed/DA'ed family.
They distroy lives by their selfishness.
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Are JW's selfish?
by JH inwhen i joined the jw, the brother who gave me a bible study said how nice it would be in the new system.
he described how nobody would be sick, how wars would cease, people would stop dying, and would resurrect.
he described how life would be so wonderful.
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Dead X-JW Who Cares
by Mystery inthis is probably more for me than any other thing.
all i want to do is scream at his sisters of how much they missed by not associating with their brother.
i want go out and shake sense into all of these people to live by shunning!
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This is probably more for me than any other thing. All I want to do is scream at his sisters of how much they missed by not associating with their brother. I want go out and shake sense into all of these people to live by shunning! Their Jehovah isn't going to do crap!
He was a different race, but since we "weren't" predjuice my parents could not stop the relationship. We went in service together, to get-to-gethers etc... We planned on marriage after graduation. When my parents found out about this they did everything they could to split us up. They came down hard on him about how the world would see us. Etc...
We ended up sleeping together. I wrote him a note, which his mother found, she in turn gave the note to the elders (my dad being one of them). We were DF'ed. I did the good girl thing and was reinstated about 10 months later. He tried for awhile, but was never reinstated. He had the chance for a basketball scholarship. He was popular and he didn't have to try to be something he wasn't with these worldly friends.
He ended up marrying a girl that he had gotten pregnant. They had a 3 kids. They divorced.
The following I found out from one of his sisters this morning:
He married again. They divorced. He married again and was raisng a 10 yr old boy that was neither his nor his wife's.
He became a decon in a Baptist church. He became a referee for baseball, softball, football and basketball. He had a good job and had moved up successfully in the past 10 years.
He died last night at 42 yrs. due to a blood clot moving and stopping his heart. Or something like that.
I called his 3 sisters to tell them how sorry I was. "I just hope Jehovah will forgive him. I know where he is right now, he isn't burning in some hell or watching me from heaven, he is dead, he is just dead."
"I saw him at our last family reunion; I wasn't able to really talk to him but I did see him. He is DF'ed you know, the elders said that we have FREE WILL of how to handle DF'ed family memebers, but we still knew it was wrong to assoicate to much with him."
(FREE WILL my ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
"I'm going to miss him so much. His wife just doesn't understand why we couldn't talk to him. I know how much he loved you, it really broke his heart when you two didn't stay together. It seemed like he was never happy after he graduated. It seemed like he was running or searching for something. All he had to do was open his heart back to Jehovah and he would have been happy again."
I want to scream! I want tell them how F----- up they are!
I looked for him, in stores, in his old neighborhood, I even went out to where he worked and set in the parking lot to see if I could see him leaving one time, when I went to visit my parents. I wanted to talk to him. I wanted to find him to see if he had ever found peace outside of the organization. I needed someone to tell me that it was OK not to believe in JW's. I knew he would be able to talk to me. Because of several factors I wouldn't call him home or ask anyone for his number. I knew that one day I would see him again.
I thought of him when i found this site. I had hoped he had found it to.
Now he is dead. And all his family can say is Jehovah will give us peace. Soon all of this will be done away with. Really soon the end will be here.
I want to SCREAM!!!!!
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Make room for it..................(NEW KINGDOM MINISTRY)
by integ inthere's an article in the new km called "make room for it".
the aricle espouses the benefits of remaining single in order to spend more time in the ministry, serve at bethel, etc.
the title though is more of a demand.
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Why does the borg constantly push people to spend more time in service? What's the payoff for them?
When you are busy you don't have time for anything else.
Slacking up on field service might give someone a chance to sit down in the morning, have a nice cup of coffee, watch the sun rise and let their mind wander. (Someone might actually began to think!)
Slacking up on field service might give someone a chance to give their day to their kid, to take them to the park or to the mall or bowling.
(Worldly people! You know the stuff that goes on at parks! bums and people hiding in the bushes having S-E-X; all those people at the mall and all the styles now - just looking at them would make you sin; and bowling they sell BEER!! there, all those drunk bowlers!)
Slacking up on field service might let someone sleep in, have a day off, might become idle and just enjoy themselves.
Slacking up on field service, oh no, would give someone a chance to surf - and what if they found US! those horrible Apostates!! (heaven forbid anyone finding this place that has one ounce of doubt and continues reading).
OH my GAWD!!!! the world would come to an END!! (One of Loris sheep might decide that they aren't waiting in line any more)
So for GODS SAKE keep going in field service.
For GODS SAKE stay busy. If you slow down you might learn something.
Hey! after a long time of staying busy (as a JW and the last half of my life running from ever being a JW); if finally slowed down; I found this site.
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Gettin' The Party On Early: Big Tex is 41 Tomorrow (April 25)!!!
by cruzanheart in.
happy birthday, darling!!!
nina
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Happy 40th birthday Tex.
Wish I knew how to do the fancy stuff. Maybe by the time your 42!
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Happy Birthday anyway.
From a born and raised TEXAN!!!!
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The JW Child
by be wise ini just thought id write down a few things on how being brought up as a jw affected me as a child.
this is for my own personal healing.
1, made me very paranoid.
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How Brought up as a JW Affected me as a Child:
1) No emotions or praise from my mom & dad. (You gave a good talk tonight or something like that, but no praise on a personal level)
2) No "i love yous". (Maybe it was just their personalities; or maybe they werew afraid of getting to close becasue shunning was always in the back of their mind just incase one of us strayed)
3) No real friends. (JW friends were very superficial, they were their when THEY needed something; but not for me when I needed something.)
4) Never fitting in. (With either side - JW's or "worldly")
5) Having to hide my real feelings on certain subjects of "the truth"; because asking questions was taboo. (Shunning; everyone dying except us; if you were resurected not being able to marry)
6) Being told that since I was a girl I couldn't go to Bethel. (Thank God! now)
7) When having thoughts of suicide, my "friends I was suppose to trust" making fun of me. And my secret friend (worldly) helped me keep my sanity.
8) Being made fun of at school.
9) Trying so hard to PLEASE and always coming up short. (always feeling like a failure)
You wanted honesty be wise. Dredging it up, brought it all back. But this again this site has brought a lot back. The time for real healing is beginning.
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Nikki got her school pics today
by WildHorses inand i thought i would share.
manuel should get his soon.
hope this works.
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You have a beautiful daughter.
A gift for my daughter:
(I have sons so I revised it and shorten it before I gave it to them this past Christmas)
Posted: December 24, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
(A version of this article was originally published on December 25, 1966, dedicated to my 9-year-old daughter.)
It's Christmas, and I have the usual problem of deciding what to give you. I know you might enjoy many things – books, games, clothes.
But I'm very selfish. I want to give you something that will stay with you for more than a few months or years. I want to give you a gift that might remind you of me every Christmas.
If I could give you just one thing, I'd want it to be a simple truth that took me many years to learn. If you learn it now, it may enrich your life in hundreds of ways. And it may save your having to face many problems that have hurt people who've never learned it.
The truth is simply this:
No one owes you anything.
Significance.
How could such a simple statement be important? It may not seem so, but understanding it can bless your entire life.
No one owes you anything.
It means that no one else is living for you, my child.
Because no one is you. Each person is living for himself; his own happiness is all he can ever personally feel.
When you realize that no one owes you happiness or anything else, you'll be freed from expecting what isn't likely to be.
It means no one has to love you. If someone loves you, it's because there's something special about you that gives him happiness. Find out what that something special is and try to make it stronger in you, so that you'll be loved even more.
When people do things for you, it's because they want to – because you, in some way, give them something meaningful that makes them want to please you, not because anyone owes you anything.
No one has to like you. If your friends want to be with you, it's not out of duty. Find out what makes others happy so they'll want to be near you.
No one has to respect you. Some people may even be unkind to you. But once you realize that people don't have to be good to you, and may not be good to you, you'll learn to avoid those who would harm you. For you don't owe them anything either.
Living your Life
No one owes you anything.
You owe it to yourself to be the best person possible. Because if you are, others will want to be with you, want to provide you with the things you want in exchange for what you're giving to them.
Some people will choose not to be with you for reasons that have nothing to do with you. When that happens, look elsewhere for the relationships you want. Don't make someone else's problem your problem.
Once you learn that you must earn the love and respect of others, you'll never expect the impossible and you won't be disappointed. Others don't have to share their property with you, nor their feelings or thoughts.
If they do, it's because you've earned these things. And you have every reason to be proud of the love you receive, your friends' respect, the property you've earned. But don't ever take them for granted. If you do, you could lose them. They're not yours by right; you must always earn them.
My experience
A great burden was lifted from my shoulders the day I realized that no one owes me anything . For so long as I'd thought there were things I was entitled to, I'd been wearing myself out – physically and emotionally – trying to collect them.
No one owes me moral conduct, respect, friendship, love, courtesy, or intelligence. And once I recognized that, all my relationships became far more satisfying. I've focused on being with people who want to do the things I want them to do.
That understanding has served me well with friends, business associates, lovers, sales prospects, and strangers. It constantly reminds me that I can get what I want only if I can enter the other person's world. I must try to understand how he thinks, what he believes to be important, what he wants. Only then can I appeal to someone in ways that will bring me what I want.
And only then can I tell whether I really want to be involved with someone. And I can save the important relationships for those with whom I have the most in common.
It's not easy to sum up in a few words what has taken me years to learn. But maybe if you re-read this gift each Christmas, the meaning will become a little clearer every year.
I hope so, for I want more than anything else for you to understand this simple truth that can set you free.
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Nikki got her school pics today
by WildHorses inand i thought i would share.
manuel should get his soon.
hope this works.
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PS: I didn't write it. I don't know who the author is.
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Why pray?
by ashitaka ini was just outside a few minutes ago, thinking about a friend who is having problems.
i bowed my head and closed my eyes, because i'm a bit tired.
suddenly, in my head, i started to pray.
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It has nothing to do with giving up free will. It is along the lines of "thegentlemen"'s comment.
In my teens I prayed so hard for a JW boyfriend. With competition of 3 - 1 guy in our congeration I was the last in line. (I know a childish prayer.) I didn't think i could live without finding a potential husband. The answer was "No"; whether my subconscience decision or from God.
I can pray all day for a 69' Mustange convertable - which i want so BAD!!! - unless I do as the gentleman said - i will never own one again.
I have prayed for over 11 months for God to help me not give up on my 14 year old son (drugs, OD, rehab etc....) I don't know if it was me screaming for help, crying for help, telling God to screw himself, begging God to take my life to give my son back his or if it was just me letting out my emotions at the time they were taking over. But something worked.
Do i believe I had no free will in the challege of my son? Absolutely not!
I could have given up when 99% of EVERYONE I talked to said to send him to the detention center, send him away to one of those hospitals, send him..... send him.... send him.....
Do I believe in prayer? Yes. It is to a Supreme One? I have no answer.
Maybe he was smart enough to give us enough free will to verbalize our thoughts to someone that doesn't voice their opinion verbally. Maybe he was smart enough to make us think about what we need/want without another imperfect voice saying "what they would do if it was them". Just maybe he was smart enough to give us our OWN free will of our mind. -
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Why pray?
by ashitaka ini was just outside a few minutes ago, thinking about a friend who is having problems.
i bowed my head and closed my eyes, because i'm a bit tired.
suddenly, in my head, i started to pray.
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the mole
by the mole in*****the mole***** i thought i would share with you something of a strange conversation i had with a member in my hall.
he came over to see how i was doing, so he says, but he questioned me on why i havnt gone back to the meetings.
if many of you have been keeping up with the whole destruction of mankind thing they have been preaching this will make you think.
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I wondered when the next date would be set.
Thank you for the info. And the points.