Thank you Hubert.
Mystery
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I went to the memorial service for Talia Balletti.
by hubert ini sent a pm to one of the forum assistants telling him this, and he said i should post and let everyone know how it went.. i didn't want to do this until mario posted first, because it's about his daughter, not mine.
but, i know all you wonderful people out there are waiting for some news on the memorial service, and i think mario is too grief stricken to be able to write right now.
sometimes these things hit you harder after it's all over, because now you have more time to think about it.
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.....and i'm out....
by red so deep inwell, after a 4.5 hour long judicial meeting with my local elders i found out i'll be df'ed here in about a week and a half.
i don't think it was so much my offense (smoking ciggs and weed) but my attitude.
the elders were trying to draw out some repentance, but i was pretty straightforward about the politics and hypocrisy in the org, especially in the case of the neighboring congregations elder body, who seem to be on a witch hunt for me and my friends....when one of the elders asked my how i felt my actions affected jehovah, i brought out that example in the old testament where the boys were making fun of the bald priest or prophet, then he got pissed and called down evil on them *in the name of jehovah* and the she-bears devoured the poor kids.
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i'm happy with the decision and it will be interesting to see how my life changes.....
I was DF'ed around 17 (i am quite a few years older now and those dates just simply don't mean anything to me now) like you my father was an elder. The guilt your parents can make you feel is so huge that you can even imagine it right now.
Being an ?obedient and wanting-only-to-please? daughter I was able to be reinstated within, I think it was 6 months but it may have been a little longer. (like I said I have limited memory in my ?old? age) But regardless of the reinstatement I still could not take ?the truth?. It was false and I couldn?t keep pretending. So I faded?. Still fading? 25+ years later. Maybe I will be DF?ed again, maybe I won?t, it really doesn?t matter. I am happier now than I have ever been.
Just remember that your parents ?think? they love ?you? and are doing the best for you. Don?t be to hard on them but this may be your opportunity to make them ?really think?.
Answer my question regarding the association of WTBS with the UN and I will ??
Answer my question regarding the biblical reasoning behind shunning (be able to bring up scriptures to counteract the ?bad association? scriptures they will throw at you).
Blondie is an excellent source of information regarding questions you may be able to ask your parents. You may want to PM her if you decide to go this route.
I am going to sound like a mom now; watch the weed it can began to control you or make you go to harder things. Don?t let it control you like the WTBS has tried to. I have two teenage boys, really close to your age. So don?t even try to give me the spill??. Just remember to control all you do; don?t let anything control you. WTBS, weed, chocolate, a person, etc?..
OK I will get off the mom thing now.
Take care Andrew. If you need us, simply get on line. Someone will be here.
Just another mom, deborah
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GOT A LITTLE STORY TO TELL YA.
by outoftheorg inmy wife and i live in a rather small town.
around 5500 residents and about another 2 to 3 thousand on the outskirts.. we have a very good hospital here, considering the size of the county and residents.. my wife is a nurse and now is the office mgr.
of the home health dept.. it seems that there is no end to the several things the hospital is involved in that call for volunteers.
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Sure you havent' beat us to paradise?
wonderful story
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thank you all for the welcome.some asked me to tell my story. heres the 411
by ko38 inmy parents became jws in 1973. i was 6.my father was a very abusive person wanting to fight anyone and everyone.of course my mother and moreso myself usualy caught the brunt of his abuse.he whipped me with a belt i believe as hard as he could and did not discrimenate as to where he hit youie in the face legs back you get the picture.. well my mom was thrilled when he agreed to study the bible with these nice people.they taught love and i think that was what appealed most to her.my dad was an obsessive compulsive person so he first argued points in the bible with them,but soon found he was no match for them.so he started taking his studies seriously and read the bible like crazy,i mean 5or6 hours at a time every day.. after a while they were baptised and things got better...................for a while.he then became very demanding with regard to studying for the watchtower all the meetings and personal reading.i could barely read,but most of all he became even less tolerant than before.the beatings continued sometimes worse.my mom had called the elders over no less than 6 times in a 5 year period to report his treatment of her and his beating me.as you may guess the elders did nothing.they sited some scriptures and admonished me to give my father respect.i thoght the elders would help me and make him stop.but they didnt.so i lived life on pins and needles with him going to every meeting studying (well you guys know we studied a lot).until age 16, my father started his fits and i ran away.boy did i go crazy then.worldly people wild parties you name it.to make a long story shorter i was living fot the day because tomorrow i may die.. i was recomended bad association during my absence,i got marrie at age 18 and went back to meetings and wow i was no longer bad association.that marriage lasted 2 years we had a daughter wich we shared custody and a lot of times my mother and father would watch her.
well during that period my father abused her sexually.my ex told me about it.said my daughter told her .well stupid me i didnt believe it and i guess the elders didnt either because they did nothing.. i was never baptised and drifted away again.flash to 1 year ago now married 10 years 3 more children and who knocks on the door you guessed it watchtower toting smily faced jws.well i always believed and carried guilt around all the time.so of course a agree to a study soon i have the whole family studying.the elder i studied with kept telling me i would be an elder soon,i didnt understand then how that could be.i soon realised that was his way of motivating me.well my world crashed down when my 2nd oldest daughter was molested by my father.i never should have trusted him to watch her and i feel enormous guilt.. my father did this while innactive but almost immediately he went back to jws like nothing happened.i wont go into some of the drama between him and myself but bottom line the elders were told and he was reproved he admitted to sexual misconduct and all that happened was restrictions.they said he could never go in field service by himself but he does.he will never be an elder but other than that he is a member in good standing.this stumbled my wife and i greatly.in the interim the elder from our seperate congregation (not my fathers) was in a big rush to have my same 12 year old daughter baptised.well she was at the summer convention.. i later found out that he was up for promotion to circuit ovsr.while a very good teacher you could tell he was all about position.
my wife bought crisis of conscience and slowly had me reading it too.
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Welcome to the board.
Mystery
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Should I teach my kids about Santa Claus? (Lie vs. Harmless Fantasy)
by AlmostAtheist inmy wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.
she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.
of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.
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Duncan -
I almost fell out of chair laughing at the end of your post. You son sounds like one of mine.
When ask about Santa now - at 15 yrs & 16 yrs - my 15 yr old says yes; my sixteen says no.
I didn't 'force' Santa on them; i didn't make up elaborate stories to prove it true or false.
I understand your wife wanting to see the sparkle in your child?s eyes when Christmas rolls around and they see Santa for the first time of the season. It is up to you as to how you teach your child to observe Santa/Christmas Season. Will your child automatically see Santa and think ?PRESENTS? or will your child see Santa and think ?time to share?
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(((badboy))))
Thinking of you.
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CZAR's madcap weightloss regimen PAYS OFF!
by czarofmischief inin a big way.
as many of you may recall, earlier this year i tried to join the navy.
they poked, prodded, and measured me around the waist.
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Congratulations
I have been fighting my weight all my life; it is quite a feat.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming --
"WOW -- What a Ride" !You can go as long as you promise to come back!
Mom of 2 boys.
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Another "Brother" Murders his family!!!
by ohiocowboy inthis is happening so often now, it is getting very sickening.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-harvey01.html.
family of three murdered in harvey .
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Investigation Continues In Harvey Triple Murders
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_336120832.html
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I don't feel bad at all
by whyamihere ini was with my kids at the laundry mat washing my huge duvet comforter and right in the middle of one of the table i saw 2 awake magazines.
i didn't even think or ponder on the moment i just went mad and ripped them up right infront of everyone.
i didn't care i thought to myself i saved someone that day.
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I tore them up when I saw them in my son?s physiatrist office.
I didn't think they were "allowed" in physiatrist offices!
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The Daddy Difference
by teejay inmy sister sent me this article from the june issue of ladies home journal.
here are some excerpts... .
the daddy difference .
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Mystery
Congradulations teejay -
Just as a point of view - my son's stepdad is so much more of a "daddy" than their biological father that words can not even express what he means to me and to them.