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  Do Not Be a Victim of Propaganda! vs Sept 07 OKM

  by Black Sheep in

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  this is an adaptation of my commentary for my wife on one of the propaganda articles still published on the official wt website.. i think they are a good set of articles to refer to when discussing the sept 2007 okm qfr and jws cultish behaviour in general.. .

  cheers.

  chris.

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  This Good News of The Kingdom Will Be Preached Then The End WIll Come

  by seekchristonly in

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  2. bible

  news.

  the preaching work was finished in the 1st century before the destruction of jerusalem,the temple and the old covenant.. this is confirmed by messiah and the apostles themselves.

  i quote jesus.

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  Zoos

  Yet another theory of how it is, how it was, and how it will play out. You are as entitled as everyone else on this rock to have and express your opinions. I just can't bring myself to swallow yet another viewpoint on the matter. I'm burnt out... and I'm pretty sure THE TRUTH isn't all that important to God either or He would have made the water a little less muddy.

  I'm content not knowing how things will turn out. Content to believe there is a God and we'll see His hand when He shows it. Don't really know what else to do til then.

  This life has a way of beating the give a shit out of you.
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  A Thread for Cyclists - Where Do you Ride?

  by cofty in

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  i took up cycing a couple of months ago just to get fitter and lose a bit of excess weight.. i bought a second-hand hybrid bike (weighs only slightly less than a truck) and fitted road tyres.

  four or five times a week i will go for a ride after work for an hour or so.

  i am fortunate enough to live in rural north england surrounded by limitless quiet roads.

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  Zoos

  When I was 14, a pioneer brother (maybe aged 20-ish) took me on a road trip to the Grand Canyon. We stopped at a gas station on the north rim and met a bicyclist who was on his way to Canada. I got to talk with him for a while and asked him all kinds of questions about his bike, gear, massive legs, where do you shower?, how do you support yourself if your home is that bike?, (which it was - he told me). He said he makes a round trip from somewhere in Canada to Panama every year, buying turquois in the south and selling it in the north to support himself.

  That's when I became interested in cycling.

  Every year my family would travel through Island Park and Yellowstone National Park to camp for a week on our way to the district convention in Billings, Montana. Every year I would watch the cyclist hoofing up those steep mountains, wanting a bike of my own that I could travel with. Oh, I had a bike of my own - a K-Mart dirt bike that got me to school and back. But a real traveling bike, a Schwinn maybe, or a Cannondale. I knew my folks couldn't afford something like that. Not with four other kids to feed, clothe and school.

  30 years later I have a Cannondale hybrid now. Not exactly a long distance traveling bike. I consider mine more of a starter kit. But I have been eye-balling the Smokey Mountain range out my back door and the road bike I intend to buy at the cycle shop. I've already mapped out the route I'm going to take, the hotels I'll stay in, and the supply of nitroglycerin for all the anticipated heart attacks.

  If I die up there, I'll die happy.
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  FROM JW.org: FAST FACTS WORLDWIDE - ON THE SLOW SIDE?

  by steve2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  their website provides snippets on progress in a section called fast facts-worldwide...but for all the pizzaz, it's outdated.

  they give the worldwide memorial attendance for last year (19,241,252) - which was less than in 2011, but do not tell us the current year's worldwide attendance - even though it was almost 2 months ago.

  doesn't that make the snippets slow facts-worldwide?

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  Zoos

  Fast facts are slow.

  Spiritual paradise is hell.

  Brother is foe.

  Soon is never.

  Donation is racketeering.

  Do I need to go on?
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  A Thread for Cyclists - Where Do you Ride?

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. physical

  i took up cycing a couple of months ago just to get fitter and lose a bit of excess weight.. i bought a second-hand hybrid bike (weighs only slightly less than a truck) and fitted road tyres.

  four or five times a week i will go for a ride after work for an hour or so.

  i am fortunate enough to live in rural north england surrounded by limitless quiet roads.

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  Zoos

  The moment I opened this thread I had this tune in my head. Ah, the power of suggestion.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugsCdLHm-Q&feature=kp

  I'm also a novice spinner. I spent $750 on a nice bike last December and outfitted it for commuting to work. (headlight, taillight, pannier). I rode it around the neighborhood exactly one time and then the weather got too cold. But I'm up and running on it now. I start out at 4am and travel 45 mins to the gym, workout for an hour and then another 10 mins to work. After 9 hours doing sometimes hard, physical work, I ride an hour home.

  Going home is mostly uphill and that's when the cuss words leak out.

  NOTE TO SELF: What the hell were you thinking?
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  Australian Government publishes on official web site the current Jehovah's Witnesses "Handling of Child Abuse" confidential letter to all bodies of elders (October 1, 2012)

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the current jehovah's witnesses official child abuse handling procedure letter to all bodies of elders (october 1, 2012) has been placed into public domain by the australian (victoria) government "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious oganisations".. official government web site link to letter:.

  http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/fcdc/inquiries/57th/child_abuse_inquiry/submissions/steven_unthank_supp_a_appendix_1.pdf.

  short link:.

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  Curious... does the government website make any comments about the letter? How do they introduce it?

  The link to the letter is fine but is there a link to the location of its post within the site?
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  How stupid were we??

  by Crazyguy in

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  its unbelievable to me that one verse in the bible blows up the entire jw dogma and its amazing to me that with all this bible reading we jw's did we missed it.

  even faders and people who quit for many reasons missed it.

  what verse am i talking about it verse 9 of chapter 5 of revelations.

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  Zoos

  I dunno. Rev. 7:9 talks about a great crowd that cannot be numbered. That's sounds different than a group of 144,000 (figurative or not) to serve as kings.

  I'm not suggesting for a moment that I agree with the JW spin on this. Maybe my thinking is still being influenced by a life of indoctrination. But when I read these scriptures I see two different groups. So we all go to heaven to do our heavenly things but only a few are selected to serve with Christ. Maybe.

  I dunno. Anymore, this stuff just gives me a headache.
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  My friends have made a stand on shunning.

  by quellycatface in

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  Zoos

  "Sorry Watchtower. I can't make my agreed upon donation anymore because I got fired for shunning an apostate at work and I couldn't do anything about it because I'm not a manager because I never went to school because I pioneered because the end is so close."

  Good job Quelly!
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  Voluntary Donations - Not Really Mentioned Anymore?

  by baldeagle in

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  2. friends

  my active jw wife has gone to all meetings, assemblies, memorials, and service groups by herself after i faded off the radar about 5 years ago.

  i asked her this past saturday as she prepared to join another sister from the kh for the service group regarding, voluntary donations.

  i inquired if publishers still mention this to the householder when placing literature.

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  Zoos

  I never once mentioned the word donation at to a householder. Occasionally I would hear someone mention it during a demo on stage but never, not once did I hear anyone use it at the door. I was always reluctant to bring up money, especially when I knew most people taking the magazines were just being polite and had no real interest in them. They just wanted me off the front stoop so they could go back to Oprah.

  They would have been better off writing me a big fat check for them because now they are a RETUUUUUURN VIIIIIISIIIIIIT!
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  After JWs inherit the earth...

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... will they destroy all great pieces of religious art?.

  just finished watching monuments men.

  great movie!

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  Blondie: I heard elders say that Beethoven, Picasso, Shakespeare might be resurrected but they would have to learn what they could compose, paint, write according to scriptural (WTS) standards.

  Good lord! How do you write a symphony according to scriptural standards?

  "NO, Ludwig! You cannot transition from a major 7th to a diminished 5th in the second measure. That is SO gay! It will summon the demons!"