just felt like a laugh.. if any funny quotes come to mind feel free to post them here.
* * * Letter fom Governing Body, Yearbook, 2009 * * *
We want to assure you that you are always in our thoughts and prayers and that we love you very much. May Jehovah pour out upon you his rich blessings.
Your brothers,
Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses
king charles russell did battle with priest guy pierce over who has the right to continue directing the affairs of the watchtower from heaven.
and priest pierce threw new beams of light at king russell but he did not prevail, neither was a place found for him, or his higness knorr or his majesty franz.. woe to the earth, for they make us hurl!.
King Charles Russell did battle with Priest Guy Pierce over who has the right to continue directing the affairs of the Watchtower from heaven. And Priest Pierce threw new beams of light at King Russell but he did not prevail, neither was a place found for him, or His Higness Knorr or His Majesty Franz.
Woe to the earth, for they make us hurl!
a contribution from one of the members who doesn't get to post very often.. ... .......... ........................ ......... ..........atlantis
This thread is SOOOO marked!
the may 2014 km, posted in another thread is a link to download it.
page 2, for week starting may 19th under the service meeting:.
discussion.
"How would you like it if Jehovah took a vaction from you?"
when jws accept new light they must, by default, accept that what they were teaching was false.
they allow themselves the luxury of error so long as it is in the pursuit of better understanding.. .
you would think this scenario demands that allowance be made for other religions with false teachings, but alas, no.
BEMUSED - Also, if you accept new light, don't you also have to accept that there may well be more new light in future, ie accept that some of the current doctrines are probably wrong?
I agree with your reasoning here, but I have heard JWs say that in its entire history they have never had to change any of their "core" doctrines; trinity, immortality of soul, heavenly/earthly hope, etc... Only minor adjustments in understand.
I suppose the change from 1879 - 1914 second coming could be considered core, but that's so long ago it doesn't count.
GINGERBREAD - "We must wash our brains clean of the former thought and embrace the correct 'New Light' from Jehovah's faithful and discreet slave."
If that's an accurate quote, that is just horrifying.
Lot's of great comments. Thanks!
when jws accept new light they must, by default, accept that what they were teaching was false.
they allow themselves the luxury of error so long as it is in the pursuit of better understanding.. .
you would think this scenario demands that allowance be made for other religions with false teachings, but alas, no.
When JWs accept new light they must, by default, accept that what they WERE teaching was false. They allow themselves the luxury of error so long as it is in the pursuit of better understanding.
You would think this scenario demands that allowance be made for other religions with false teachings, but alas, no. A typical answer given by JWs at this point is:
"But we find the mistakes and fix them. Other religions don't."
I'm not familiar enough with other religions to confirm or deny that assertion. How would you respond to such a statement?
in his illustration at mathew 13: 24-30, jesus made it clear that the wheat and weeds were to grow together until the harvest.
this parable runs contrary to the concept put forward by the wt about getting out of the world and running to their organization for salvation.. first of all, the parable says that the weeds will be gathered, bundled and burned first then the wheat will be gathered into the storehouse.. wt teaches that we need to gather up the wheat first.
not only are they doing it backward, they are teaching that true christians must isolate themselves inside a special wheat organization, separate from the weeds.
Interesting thoughts I hadn’t considered.
I appreciate all the feedback.
in his illustration at mathew 13: 24-30, jesus made it clear that the wheat and weeds were to grow together until the harvest.
this parable runs contrary to the concept put forward by the wt about getting out of the world and running to their organization for salvation.. first of all, the parable says that the weeds will be gathered, bundled and burned first then the wheat will be gathered into the storehouse.. wt teaches that we need to gather up the wheat first.
not only are they doing it backward, they are teaching that true christians must isolate themselves inside a special wheat organization, separate from the weeds.
In his illustration at Mathew 13: 24-30, Jesus made it clear that the wheat and weeds were to grow together until the harvest. This parable runs contrary to the concept put forward by the WT about getting out of the world and running to their organization for salvation.
First of all, the parable says that the weeds will be gathered, bundled and burned first – THEN the wheat will be gathered into the storehouse.
WT teaches that we need to gather up the wheat FIRST. Not only are they doing it backward, they are teaching that true Christians must isolate themselves inside a special ‘wheat’ organization, separate from the weeds. That completely defeats the point of the parable.
A poster on Y!A made this comment:
You would also notice in that illustration that Jesus clearly identified the field as being the world of mankind here on earth. Therefore removing the wheat from the field to the storehouse must symbolize removing Christians from the world of mankind - gathering them to heaven - the kingdom in which they will "shine as brightly as the sun". The storehouse cannot represent a restored true congregation *on earth* because being on earth is denoted by being in the field (Matthew 13:38,43)
Also, you would notice that at the harvest time it is the weeds that are removed from the wheat and bundled. But JWs say the converse - that the wheat are removed from the weeds and put in a restored congregation of their own. If that were so Jesus' illustration would instead speak about the reapers collecting the wheat out from the weeds and transplanting them to a specially cleared corner of the field that free of weeds, to grow for a while before finally gathering them into the storehouse. That is how the JW interpretation would have to be pictured by the illustration, based on Jesus' own clarification of the symbols.
many, after leaving or being cast out of 'the society,' have felt so strongly so as to write a book.
some well thought out and good reading.. my questions are the following:.
if you were to write such a book what title would you give it ?.
Oh wait! Already taken.
so... recently lost my favorite aunt, mother of my favorite cousin- she was a "witness" when she died.
inactive, but still a witness.
who lived with my witness mother and stepdad.
BLW, that's exactly how I feel.
I would be more upset by the realization that I wasn't upset. The death of a family member is supposed to make you cry, mourn. But that won't be the case for me IF someone even bothers to contact me - which I doubt.
Family bonds can be broken beyond repair. Natural affection can can be destroyed. The Watchtower cult has not only perfected the process but they seem to be honing their skills on it every chance they get.
