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I see too that their racial ideas still continue. Out of their entire 135 strong organisational line up there are only 2 are persons of colour and both operate exclusively in Africa.

https://www.lds.org/church/leaders?lang=eng

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pros and cons of anti depessants?

by Crazyguy in

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friends

obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.

i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.

anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.

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This thread was not whether or not to seek professional help for depression. It was about the pros and cons of anti-depressants. So everyone's comments and experiences are valid.

Of course one should seek and explore professional help but I think looking at the subject from every possible angle is definitely beneficial.

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pros and cons of anti depessants?

by Crazyguy in

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friends

obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.

i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.

anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.

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dis member, if you're depression is severe enough, you literally cannot function. you can't garden, you can't walk, you can't do any of the things you are recommending. These are all good things, but not when you are severly clinically depressed.

I'm not so sure.. I watched my mother die and choke to death very slowly of lung cancer over a 6 month period.. a couple of years before that my father was murdered and his killer was found completely not guilty in a prolonged Old Bailey Crown Court murder trial. A couple of years before that my grandmother passed away.

So I think I more than qualified for clinical depression. I was a serious mess I can tell you. My entire soul and spirit were almost completely snuffed out by these events. Yet I did not take a single pill. I had no family support and no counselling of any kind either. I was completely alone. It was without any doubt the most difficult period of my life to survive. I got off my ass and spent as much time in the country and outdoor fresh air as I could. It took about 5 years but I managed to heal and bring myself out of it and back to life with simple nature.

I mentioned before that I had tried anti-depressants one night years before all these events took place... and it was the very effects that pill itself that made me completely unable to function and not the depression.

With the depression I know what the problem is.. I can see what's causing it.. I can try to work out a solution.. I know who and what I am.

With the anti-depressant pill I could not even think straight.. I could not even get out of my bed. I did not even know who I was!

And they call that a solution????

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I was a publisher of falsehoods

by scotoma in

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the biggest regret i have about association with jw's is that they used me to publish their lies.. yeah.

a publisher.

think about the responsibility of a "publisher".. a publisher takes pride in bringing "truth" to the public.

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Jehovah's Witnesses, JW.Org = Consistent Publishers of Falsehood

I prefer evil manipulative lying bastards..

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RELIGIOUS FANATICS

by NAVYTOWN in

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my personal definition of a 'religious fanatic' is a person who believes that their religion is the only one that has the truth.

all other religions are considered apostate or the work of satan.

any attempt to present alternative views is met with either outright dismissal, or else pre-programmed answers supporting their current religion.

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Be grateful you don't live in any of the countries listed below .

The following 21 nations treat apostasy under their criminal laws:

Afghanistan – illegal (death penalty, although the U.S. and other coalition members have put pressure that has prevented recent executions)
Comoros
Egypt – illegal (3 years' imprisonment)
Iran – illegal (unclear status
Iraq
Jordan – possibly illegal (fine, jail, child custody loss, marriage annulment) although officials claim otherwise, convictions are recorded for apostasy
Kuwait
Malaysia – illegal in five of 13 states (fine, imprisonment, and flogging)
Maldives
Mauritania – illegal (death penalty if still apostate after 3 days.
Morocco – illegal to proselytise conversion (15 years' imprisonment)Only country not listed by Pew.
Nigeria
Oman – legal in criminal code, but according to the family code, a father can lose custody of his child .
Pakistan – illegal (death penalty since 2007)
Qatar – illegal (death penalty)
Saudi Arabia – illegal (death penalty, although there have been no recently reported executions)
Somalia – illegal (no punishment in anti-AlShahbab areas) (death penalty used by Al-Shabab)
Sudan – illegal (death penalty)
Syria
United Arab Emirates – illegal (3 years' imprisonment, flogging)
Yemen – illegal (death penalty)

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pros and cons of anti depessants?

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.

i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.

anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.

Dis-Member

Best things that ever helped with depression in me was gardening: playing with earth and growing living things, being close to animals.. and playing my guitar.

DO NOT LISTEN TO ANY MEDICAL ADVICE IN THIS THREAD. Go see a mental health specialist.

I'd ignore that comment too. Read and research as much as you can from anywhere you can. Especially from people that have taken the medication you are offered or are considering. I wish I did when my doctor prescribed me the anti-biotic Cipro for a minor infection failing to tell me about the side effects. Well this medication cured the minor infection but also nearly left me crippled for life with massive tendon ruptures in both shoulders, arms, knees and major joints. It took me a year and a half to be able to walk normally again and I have damage and pain in one knee that will be with me for the rest of my life.

So many people have had their lives destroyed by this drug that there are multiple class action law suits going on. Some have been permanently crippled.

http://www.yourlawyer.com/topics/overview/cipro

http://www.youhavealawyer.com/cipro/

http://www.rotlaw.com/cipro/

And yes it was a 'trusted health specialist' that did this to me.

Anti-depressants do more harm than good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2134863/Anti-depressants-harm-good.html

The dark side of antidepressants

http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants

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pros and cons of anti depessants?

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.

i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.

anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.

Dis-Member

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