i'd never thought about this... but last night my father asked for my time.
and i told him i didn't have any.
he didn't seem to mind so he went ahead long his way.. .
my mother gave me a down-the-road on how I should not be questioning my father's time
Well, tell her you don't care if he lies on his own behalf, but that it bothers your conscience that he is lying in your name! That should make her think a bit.
And besides, he didn't put down 15 minutes or a half hour or even an hour for you...which you could consider more of a 'place holder'...he put down 3 hours!
i just saw this on witness world web site and had a few laughs.
how many of you were this pathetic when you were a witness?
devon
It is also surprising that they imagine that a thinking supernatural powerful being would want to reside in a 1970's retro lamp. The very beings who JW's think can enter your home via a television screening of The Excorcist also happen to need dodgy 2nd hand items to transport themselves. LOL! (snip) (We don't have much call to use old lampshades to raise energy... LOL)
ROFLMAO at Sirona!!!
However, I have met some people in my life who absolutely make my skin crawl
Yep - I know what you're talking about exactly! That doesn't mean that the person has "demons" - it just means you you're paying attention (or are more sensative naturally) to forms of communication other than the those we generally rely on for everything (sight, sound, & touch).
Yep, every time I've paid attention to my 'warning flags' I've been right to do so.
anger over stunt with croc and baby
39 minutes ago
melbourne (reuters) - celebrity crocodile hunter steve irwin has triggered outrage after he held his one-month-old baby while feeding a snapping crocodile during a show at his australian zoo.
Oh, yeah, I think he went too far this time. And Sheila, there's a difference between having your kids do stuff with you just in real life, and stunting for the cameras - that's the difference I saw here.
The funny thing is, there are things the croc hunter is afraid of....like feral domestic cats.
Did anyone else see the episode (a very early one in his career) where they trapped this big orange feral tomcat? Domestic cats are a big problem in Australia, so they had live-trapped this big ol' tom and were taking him somewhere (I don't remember what they said they were going to do with him, hope they didn't kill him).
This cat was spitting and squalling and madder that a wet, well, cat...and Stevie boy was scared to death of him!! He was talking about how dangerous and mean they were...and he wouldn't go get him! His wife put on gloves and went and grabbed the cat and put it in a carrier.
We were laughing our butts off about that one.
how safe is that?
she is 25 yrs old and went out there for 2 weeks with a friend who decided while there to go to philadelphia for a job interview and told her "see you back in england".... .
now she is alone for the new year up until the 5th of january (her flight isnt until 5th) 5 mins away from time square, dont know anyone and quite afraid to leave her hotel room after 5pm.
Brummie
Boy does that suck! What was supposed to be a fun trip is in danger of being ruined. I can sympathize...I'm kinda chicken myself about being in a strange place alone...to say nothing of Times Square!
I hope some who knows NYC can give some advice!
a discussion on another thread made me wonder about what happens when we finally come to the conclusion that the society is full of sh*t.
did you take some time to 'get your religious bearings' before contemplating joining another religion?
or, was it a strong religious belief that brought you out of the jws?
A discussion on another thread made me wonder about what happens when we finally come to the conclusion that the society is full of sh*t.
Did you take some time to 'get your religious bearings' before contemplating joining another religion?
Or, was it a strong religious belief that brought you out of the JWs?
Do you lack confidence in your ability to evaluate a religion or group now (this is me)?
I got to wondering if there was a link between what religious direction you went after the JWs and whether you were raised in or joined.
If you are a Christian now - were you 'raised in the truth?'
If you are agnostic/atheist now - did you join as an adult?
What makes me wonder, is that my husband and I joined as adults (with some initial resistance that it was 'the truth'), after having already looked into some other Christian denominations. When we finally accepted a few years later, that the society was full of it, that sort of brought the whole 'house of cards' tumbling down as far as religion goes. I wondered if those who were Christians now, had 'discovered' Christianity after being raised as JWs?
Comments?
i don't really understand why some people can be such idiots.
how can people dismiss every other person's religion or belief as illogical while holding strong to their own illogical beliefs.
i work with a few bush worshiping ultra conservatives.
Gawd, Descender!!
My condolences.
Actually, your workmates sound a lot like my parents, who think about the exact opposite of what I think about most subjects. I think I'm adopted
i'm currently going back to school to study biology and biomimicry.
i'm hoping to work to develop green technologies - better energy sources, better product packaging, better waste disposal, and so on.
i'm concerned for the earth, and i sometimes wish that everyone would suddenly start consuming less or more responsibly, but i realize that it simply will not happen overnight.
Your husband is a PhD student in ecology? That's awesome. What type of fields are available to a person with that degree?
His PhD will be in biology / ecology. Mine will be in Environmental Anthropology. Most likely we will teach at a college or university while also doing research, but we could also work for government agencies or NGOs as well. His undergrad was in Environmental Studies / Life Science. He had planned to go to work for someplace like the state game and parks with a B.S., but his professors practically ordered him to go get a PhD.
He did a summer at Cedar Creek Natural History Area, which is an LTER (Long Term Ecological Research) site
and met the PhDs working at the urban LTER site in Phoenix (all of metro Phoenix is an LTER), and decided to go to grad school here.
The environment is a big field, with lots of different career options. One of the cool things happening in the study of the environment are some IGERT (Integrated Graduate Education, Research and Training) programs. This is an NSF funded program where grad students from multiple departments, science, social science, etc, work together (something sorely lacking in most grad programs). There are IGERTs on multiple subjects, and there are a few around the country that are studying the environment. ASU's program is in Urban Ecology.
We're pretty new to grad school, but we're always willing to 'talk shop'...I think my personal messaging is working...let me know and I'll send you my school email addy if you want.
Liz
many persons express why they are angry toward the jw religion but what gets you depressed, just thinking about it, regarding the witnesses?
Awww Dave... That's so sad - your pain is obvious in your post.
I have such a soft spot for guys named Dave - that's my little brother's name
hugs...
many persons express why they are angry toward the jw religion but what gets you depressed, just thinking about it, regarding the witnesses?
It depresses me that they can give up their thinking ability and common sense, because the society "must" be right and anything it does "just has to" be OK.
It never ceases to amaze and sadden me - one day something is obviously evil and inconceivable, and then the next day, the society does a flip-flop and the rank and file has a brain transplant, like they never said anything of the sort.
For instance, I remember sitting thru the two book studies we did on the Rev book (early 90's), but to listen to the JW apologists on, for instance, Beliefnet's board explain how it is perfectly OK that the society joined the UN just makes me ill.
i'm currently going back to school to study biology and biomimicry.
i'm hoping to work to develop green technologies - better energy sources, better product packaging, better waste disposal, and so on.
i'm concerned for the earth, and i sometimes wish that everyone would suddenly start consuming less or more responsibly, but i realize that it simply will not happen overnight.
I think most people would be a bit disturbed but wouldn't say anything, since most of us are students and live in complexes where recycling is not available.
We drag our stuff to the recycling on campus, but I admit sometimes I toss stuff I shouldn't which is baaaaad considering I'm studying environmental attitudes in others. Hubby (the PhD student in ecology) usually keeps me honest.
While we're on the subject, does anyone live in an area where recycling is easily available to apartment complexes (ie - right by the dumpsters?)?? It has always chapped my hide that people who live in condos/townhouses/apartments have to haul their recycling somewhere, when there is curbside recycling for houses...which means most don't do it, and many would if it was easy.
Also, I've lived in rural areas where the nearest recycling was so far away that the gas used to get there probably made the environmental friendliness moot. But this was over a decade ago - I'm hoping that's changed.
