Well, Focus, the Tower wasn't all bad until they stopped serving food at the Conventions. Then, truly, they became the paragon of Evil in our time.
[SYN], of the Running Ahead of Jehovah, And Gaining On Farkel and Focus Class.
draffenville
congregation
of jehovah's witnesses
Well, Focus, the Tower wasn't all bad until they stopped serving food at the Conventions. Then, truly, they became the paragon of Evil in our time.
[SYN], of the Running Ahead of Jehovah, And Gaining On Farkel and Focus Class.
click on the "panorama" banner above, or here:http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_2114000/2114320.stm.
click on latest programme.
you can now watch the entire airing of last sunday's production, which dealt with the hunt for bin laden.
No, it's when I'm actually trying to download the clip that I get asked for login/pass...argh....
click on the "panorama" banner above, or here:http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_2114000/2114320.stm.
click on latest programme.
you can now watch the entire airing of last sunday's production, which dealt with the hunt for bin laden.
SaintSatan: It asks me for authorization! i.e. it needs a username and a password! GRRR! And here I thought I finally found a decent utility to bypass the skullduggerry of Realplayer
there is no evidence that our time has any specific biblical prophetic importance if the 1914 claims are wrong.even doctrines like the "two-class" system, which is a unique interpretation by the jehovah's witnesses, is actually dependent on the 1914 date.
the bible states that the final fall and destruction of jerusalem was in the 19th regnal year of nebuchadnezzar (jeremiah 52:12; 2 kings 25:1-4; 2. chron 26:11,19).
the most secure source of absolute dates comes from contemporary inscription with astronomical observations.
That is an amazing piece of research. It basically shows that the entire 607 date system is COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG. Take that, Tower. Nice work, JanH.
like many others, i too am outraged by the watchtower's legalistic doctrine over the reporting of child abuse to the authorities, but for those lead by the bible we do have a dilemma because it would seem that the society are correct in their interpretation of deuteronomy 19:15 and matthew 18:16 and naturally they want to apply these verses to how they handle allegations of child abuse in judicial cases.. .
but with that being said, does the watchtower mis-apply these verses in any way?
if it can be shown that they do the case against them will be much stronger!.
It still amazes me that the Tower so rigidly enforces these ancient Hebrew texts, and yet at the same time ignores all the texts on Animal Sacrifice and Wave Offerings. Tisk, tisk. Bad Tower.
http://www.sundayherald.com/26260 .
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edited by - angryxjw on 13 july 2002 23:50:5.
An excellent article! Thanks for the link! Today is a great day for all Silentlambs everywhere!
uk re panorama program .
a letter has been sent to all po's private addresses to be read out to each uk congregation this sunday - the wt is to be 35 mins long and the lette will take 25 mons to read it.. the instructions on it are :-.
1. read it yourself.
Question: How do you know when you're in a High Control Cult?
Answer: You can't even talk about the stuff discussed during a gathering by one of your superious for fear of incrimination and expulsion!
That is horrifying Matty!
ok, by now everybody on this board knows how much i love the peepz over at jwzone.
really, honestly, i tried not to create this thread, but i couldn't help it with some of the topics which have popped up there in the last couple of days.
that board is just such a pain to read, it's almost unbelievable.
Oh no! I'm being dragged away from my Microsoft Natural Keyboard by THE DEEMINZ!!!!!! God help me! LOL!
SYN, of the Seduced By The Force Of Moe's Stare Class!
i went to the meeting this morning and taped the reading of the letter, and transcribed it when i got home.
there are a few alterations to the u.s. letter posted by silent lambs.
i have highlighted these changes.. .
There are some really damning statements in THIS beauty of a document. I'm sure this day is going to live in infamy in the minds of victims of abuse who heard this letter in their Halls.
Even one abused child is one too many. However, in evaluating the evidence, they must bear in mind the Bible's clear direction: "No single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or any sin .... At the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good."
Same old same old. DNA evidence, of course, is disregarded. Who needs secular science?
Our position is that the secular authorities deal with crime while elders deal with sin. To avoid a miscarriage of justice elders must not interfere with, prevent, or impede any secular investigation into child abuse. They must ensure that secular laws are adhered to
Translation: Only go to the police when required to do so by law, otherwise keep it covered up. Delightful!
The elders know that it is the absolute right of the victim, his or her family or anyone else to report the matter to the authorities, if they so wish.
But nothing is mentioned about the undertone of this sentence: You may go to the Authorities, but woe is you if you do it without the permission of the Legal Dept.!
Over the years, as we have noted areas where our policy could be strengthened, we have not hesitated to follow through.
Translation: When enough Apostates have caused enough turbulence and gotten our horrendously Mideavil (SP?) policies enough attention, then we change them!
"For the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation. Moreover, he cannot be a pioneer or serve in any other special, full-time service."
But, such men may still go out unaccompanied in service!
This letter is exactly what I was expecting, and I guarantee you when this hits the desk of somebody sufficiently important at the BBC, the fit is going to hit the shan for the Tower. MWHUAHAHA.
want a larf?
http://www.purelanguage.net/forums/showthread.php?s=19a006f652e80247ed638b865fb37971&threadid=2944.
expatbrit
"It's very important to trust in the Bible, even if it contradicts secular science"
HOOKAY!