our niece, irene, who posts here as inky, sent me an email.
her 27 year old son is getting married in two weeks, and she posted a few days ago about how he didn't invite her to his wedding.. she told me i can post it as she doesn't want to read it again.. "dear mom.
i've needed to write this letter to you for some time now.
INKY I won't go into a buch of stuff about how increadibly wrong and selfish and missguided and rude and shortsighted and foolish and hurtful and judgeMENTAL that letter is but you will get a big
HUG
I am so sorry you have to go through this.
from larrynbabies
i knew this girl,.
onetime she had to go to the dogpound to retrieve a dog that belonged to my former sister in law.
the dogs name was max.
I knew this girl,
Onetime she had to go to the dogpound to retrieve a dog that belonged to my former sister in law. The dogs name was Max. This dog had a license so she knew it had been found in short order. Well when marci was walking down the isle she would see a tag on the front of a cage with the dogs name on so first she saw a dog whith a name like spot then she would see the naxt one was labeled stray then she would see a dog named sammy then another tagged as stray and so on and so forth.
Well when she got home with the dog she innocently made the comment that it was sure funny how many people named there dog stray around these parts.
most of the gb members are in their 80s and 90s.
with the passing of milton henschel (82), one wonders if they'll all live to be nearly 100, like freddy franz.. so let's take a theoretical look into the future, 11 years from now.. the year is 2014. the last gb member dies.
the faithful and discreet slave class are no longer in existence.
I have never been able to figure this one out. Please excuse my ignorance as I have never nor will ever become a member of the organization. If there are 144,000 people who will rule in heavan. What's to say those people have not gone already. Of the billions of people who have crossed the face of this planet, What makes these people think that they are included in this group. To think god would let that many souls come and go without the benifit of salvation seems rediculous to even consider. There seemes to be a general fault in logic concerning most of the things that they preach. Just because a person tries to be holier than thou does not give them a right to judge. I have noticed that most practicing jehovas witnesses seem to be very judgeMENTAL.
When I was at my fiancee's funeral service there were jehova witnesses trying to talk me into the benifit of their so called faith. It was the same people who had disfellowshipped Megan and had caused her alot of the pain that led to her suicide. I told them straight up that The fact that she had beed DF'd at the age of 16 was the worst thing to do to a child and this had hurt her in a very deeply. That this had led to her being where she is now.
As far as the governing body there will always be someone inline with access to the organizations check book and things will never change. Not in our lifetime nor our childrens, the whole system ha ha is based on a method that perpetuates it's own existance, it is like a disease.
Larry
i am wondering if thier have been any recent studies done regarding a higher incident of scuicide and mental illness in the jw community
I have not posted here in a little while I guess it is a good thing. I am making progress but there was this movie I saw the other day and it effected my in a very very negative way. The movie was called vanilla sky. It screwed with me very much I couldn't help but visualize Megan Hanging in the basement. The vision seemed so real as if I were standing there I am crying as I write this but I need to get it out. It hurts so much I miss her soo much. My life is so empty right now without her. Is there such a thing as loving someone too much? I have thought that maybe I am just feeling sorry for myself but it is much deeper than that. There seem to be triggers that elicite an extream emotional response. The thing is you dont know what these triggers are you just know them when they happen. If I knew what they were I could do something to stear clear of them and maybe I would not be so screwed up. You just dont know and the next thing is your blindsided by pain and greif. I was in my sons bedroom changing him the other day when he squealed. When megan and I first had the twins we got a baby monitor that would automaticaly turn on when the babies cried and there was this song that would play and it came on. I just had tears streaming down my face as I was changing him.
Larry
this is a picture of bill bowen, myself and cynthia hampton taken when we had the hassan healing conference a few months ago, it was a great day!.
http://www.randytv.com/bowenvisit1.jpg.
randy watters.
the pictcture looks like a place right around huntington beach or newport beach ca
Very nice place to be, it is I think, a power plant.
i know us men aren't the most clever people on earth but sometimes we say things that are meant to be a compliment and we get slammed.. my ex-wife was saying once, that she thought her hair was getting thicker and i, in my logical way was trying to figure out if this could really be true.
i then thought about the fact that she had recently lost wieght and without thinking any further i blurted out.... "your hair is not getting thicker your head is not as fat.".
this is a true story.
I know us men aren't the most clever people on earth but sometimes we say things that are meant to be a compliment and we get slammed.
My ex-wife was saying once, that she thought her hair was getting thicker and I, in my logical way was trying to figure out if this could really be true. I then thought about the fact that she had recently lost wieght and without thinking any further I blurted out...
"your hair is not getting thicker your head is not as fat."
this is a true story
larry
an update on bill bowen & his meeting with the wt.....this is an eyeopener and a disgrace on the watchtower:.
i am sitting here looking out the tenth floor window of my watchtower paid for room at the manchester holiday inn.
the events of the day before are difficult to comprehend as i reflect on what happened.
I have read your posting and felt I needed to add the recount of the deposition I had last week with Megans parents. Her mother did so badly that doing a depo on her father before the trial was not needed. here is a breif description of her statements I think you will find them horribly interesting.
Well the trail is getting close and we had depositions on thurs. I cant believe some of the crap that came out of megans mothers mouth. I seriously think she is freaking mentaly retarded. She was caught lying numerous times and any credibility she had before the depo was destroyed. There were some very sad and embarrasing times for her I am glad to say. My lawyer had asked her about the molestation of Megan by her brother in law a JW and she had stated that she didn't know about it untill a year after the fact. Then she said that it wasn't a molestation but an inapropriate sexual advance. He then asked if she had knoweledge of the affair that the same JW bro in law had with her other daughter. She also said it wasn't a molestation but an inapropraite sexual advance. He then asked her how old were the girls when this had happened and she answered 15 and 16. Then he said has your son ever been molested and she said yes. Also a JW Then he asked did you notify the police and she answered no. Next he said Have you ever called the police on any of your children and she said yes on her son when he got angry and puched a hole in the wall. Then he said " let me get this straight you call the police when your son gets mad and punches a hole in the wall but you don't when your children get molested and she said yes".
Well it was like a bomb going off in the room. There were many more embarrasing moments for her too many to mention here. She lied about Megans attempted suicides and her sisters attempted suicides which are a matter of record. She lied about their drinking habits. She lied about having nervous breakdowns. The lawyer asked her why she kept looking at her husband when ever he asked her a question and she stated Aw because he's so cute. She is such a phoney lying Bitch and it was so obvious.
I only hope she does as badly during the trial. I know I don't have this battle won yet but it was encouraging to see her fall on her lying face. The Gaurdian ad lietem was present for the depo and that too was a good thing. The only witnesses they have are members of thier congregation and they are having an overseer testify. Her sister is going to testify that when her brother and sisters were molested that they were instructed by the elders, one of which is testifying, advised not to call the police.
I will again, Keep you posted about what happens at the trial. I pray to god that the judge has the wisdom of Solomon and I get my babies back.
Larrynbabies
we talk a lot about df and shunning ,and our hatred for these practices.
thinking back on your congregation, were there people that u felt deserved to be shunned?
under what circumstances would u have "marked" an individual?
My fiancee Megan was shunned and I was with her when we went to Miejers. It was around Christmas time and she saw that her very best friend was working there. This girl had been her friend for ten years while she was in the organization. She went to see if she would talk to her and I told her to be carefull (I knew how easily she was hurt) but she went anyways. I couldn't bear to watch. She came back a minuite or so later with tears streaming down her cheeks. I can't believe how, in the name of god, people could be so harsh and mean spirited.
Larry
hi gang.
my self imposed exile is over ( to the chagrin of a few here i'm sure...i'm looking at you trauma hound .
i started my new job at the chaplain's school today, working in combat development as the training nco.
Mike, I am sure you know my story and first off I wanted to let you know I am doing better with counseling and medication. I wanted to thank you for your concern. I didn't realize that you are going through what you are going through. That says alot about you when a person who is suffering will reach out to help another person.
All I can say is you are probably the best person to determine where you will end up after all of this. I can say however that going through a mental or emotional trauma or circumstance can be extreamly hard on everyone involved. The person suffering from the problem as well as the ones that are close to that person. There is the consideration of your children and the effects that they are experiencing. One from the probable irrational behaviour of their mother as well as the lessened patience of their father.
I don't know how old your children are but the fact that you recognize that your being short with them is a plus. Children have a way of sensing when your troubled and it can cause them to be troubled also. I know my son has been able to sense when I have been having problems. He has said to me "dad I don't like it when your hand shakes like that it scares me." I had to explain to him it was usally a sign that I was missing Megan and it would go away eventually.
Hang in there
Larry
my fiancee died on feb24 she was suffering from years of abuse by her alchoholic jw parents.
she first tried to commit scuicide when she was 12 then 2 more times at 16. when she was 15 she snuck out to go to a party when she was raped she was too afraid to tell her parents.
the very next day her jw brother in law molested her.
I have been reading through some of my postings and have been mortified by the spelling. I need to say that my spelling is not as bad as it seems I just need to proof my posting before I send it.
THANKS
Larry
