Just a note : I downloaded the Audio versions some weeks back and my copies - although extremely well read were only portions of each chapter - pity cos the reader was doing a fine job !
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Ray Franz book's available in audio format! Crisis of Consciencs / Christian Freedom
by Indian Larry ineverybody may already know this but i just happened to discover that crisis of conscience and in search of christian freedom are now available as audio books.
they are not legal copies as commentary press did not make a audio version, however someone took the time to read every page of both books into a good mike.
the sound quality is good and they are organized well for a iphone or ipod.
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A "follow up" meeting?!?!
by DATA-DOG inwell, now they want a follow up visit!
when you tell the elders that you have doubts and they say " its okay, we have had our doubts.
having doubts is not apostasy.
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I stated I was suffering from ADD....................................
ACUTE DOCTRINAL DISTRESS and needed an indefinite break from the regular !
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BOE Letter Regarding Youth Baptisms
by RubaDub inapparently the society is taking an aggressive stand on youth baptisms and the age recommendations.. from what i have heard from a good source in bethel, a letter is being sent to all boe's that those desiring to be baptized first be potty trained.. rub a dub.
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Baltar447 - Calmness is the life of the fleshly orgasm ! \
Otherwise try new brands of sanitary pads
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Books that changed your life-
by new hope and happiness ini am not much of a reader as i have two many distractions, but i fancy a challenging read, so please list any book that has changed your entire world view on everything.
i remember as a teenager buying at a yard sale, norman vincent peales " the power of positive thinking" and at the time that had a big impact on me.
but i am a little bit more in to " realistic positive thinking" now..
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"The Kingdom of God is Within You" - TOLSTOY
"Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" - Tom Wolfe
Sometimes a Great Notion - Ken Keysey
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Convicted paedophile allowed to grill his victims at Jehovah's Witness meeting
by Sapphy inhttp://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/convicted-paedophile-jonathan-rose-grilled-7151197.
oh my goodness, i'm so angry i can't even speak!
"women who complained that former jehovahs witness elder jonathan rose, 40, had molested them as children relived their nightmares in front of him after he was released from jail".
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Teary Oberon - when you have been through such trauma it is very very possible that one could end up being a little out of sorts psychologically - to varying degrees. Often girls become promiscuous etc etc And of course that would earn them a DF'ing -
He was convicted and sentenced because of what he did with these girls - I dont give a shit if they were JW / Taoist or Muslim at any time - he interfered with them when they were Minors - He is a dog! And now are you defending this dog?
And Candice Conti ...???????? and ALL the others ??????
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only JW's can analize scripture because they are spiritual
by never a jw inonly spiritual people can read scripture.
may 17, 2014. dear never a jw,.
but logic tells me we are just not on the same page, and will never agree until we are.. elder.
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Never a JW : A Freudian slip in the title of this post??.................But JDubs can indeed ANALIZE the scriptures.
He sounds like a very conceited person - SuperFine in his own estimation of himself - And he is right in this respect - You will never end up on the same page with him.........He is faaarrr too spiritual for you and I .....................Move on
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New Job
by LouBelle ini was fortunate to be recommended for a sales position by a former colleague.
the company phoned me and we set up an interview.
i accepted their offer - it is nearly double what i earn at the moment.
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Congrats on the job.
btw you did vote IFP didnt you ? I mean now that you work for the King !!!
Fortunately the Western Cape stays DA ...............and they nearly scored Gauties as well ...................
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How to cope with depression?
by make yourself ini know its very common for jws and ex jws to deal with depression.
maybe it's a side effect of cognitive dissonance or the whole outlook on life being a jw.
but what are some ways to cope with depression?
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To all of you who are fighting with this Beast in all its many guises ......My most sincere wishes to you.
Please know that you are not alone in this battle.
Very good pointers have been made on this thread - after 30 months of this hell including 2 suicide attempts - I only got relief when I was put on to Venlafaxine [Effexor] that was after months of trying many other meds [Note: by stating the meds that worked for me does not mean that it is the be and end all for your specific situation ie I am not specifically endorsing it as The One] Needless to say I was back on track within a month - then I also managed to find a new niche in life work-wise and I was into remission. I am now [20 months down the line] - still on the Effexor [SNRI ?] -
However you have to approach your affliction holistically - eg Psychiatrist/Meds/Exercise/Diet etc etc etc - and finding good human support.
In my case my wife and my kids were my anchors. What support did I get from my - then - fellow elders??? Sweet Fanny Adams !!!!
Via the professionals - you need to also identify the Triggers for your depression.
I am also intensely into Mindfulness.
I have trimmed my life eg live very simply - have axed my debts and am in advanced Fade [totally Inactive and not attending meetings]
I would be more than willing to "chat" to anyone who would like to bounce things off me.
I am 58 yrs old, Professionally qualified with a passion for Music [am a trained Muso] and Art / good reading and quite Maverick and a little eccentric [according to my wife and kids] - Talk to me if you wish - I will not judge you!
May you all experience relief from the affliction.
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Memorial question
by hoser inwhen the brothers pass the bread and wine why do they sit down and pass it to themselves even though they've handled it already?.
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It can get quite funny if they have not choreographed the whole ritual very carefully too esp as to who takes the emblems back to the table. Its really so silly - Many moons ago an elderly partaker giving the talk simply had the attendant offer him his sip and krisp while he stood at the podium. then again he was a very progressive old man - why ahead of the WTS on doctrine and subsequently removed from the body because of his views - Internet was not available then. [needless to say at his funeral he was eulogised by 3 members of the Bethal Branch Committee - the longest eulogy I have ever experienced]
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in today's Watch Tower, Brooklyn/Patterson contradicted Jesus.- the Pattern.
by prologos inin paragraph 17 the wt writer alleged that we can not know the exact day and hour, "--but we can and do know the season--"-- we are living in that season--"but.
when jesus was asked a simlar to the wt theme question about the kingdom "--when --"or:.
" lord are you restoring the kingdom at this time?--".
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THIS GENERATION WILL BY NO MEANS PASS AWAY ......................................because "we" wont allow it to .................so there!!!!!