AFRIKANMAN

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  Hello JWN family!

  by crazyhorse in

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  2. friends

  hello jwn!

  im a 22 yr active jw and i recently realized the truth about the truth.

  im from an african country where most people dont think critically and just accept things as they are without questioning.

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  AFRIKANMAN

  I am from South Africa -

  I am guessing that your are too !?
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  Welcoming International Delegates for London 2014 IC

  by Da.Furious in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had the pleasure of joining jw's on the weekend to greet the international delegates who are attending the london 2014 international convention at twickenham.. nothing interesting, just waiting for someone with a badge to come through the doors and all will cheer!

  the interesting part is how they are behaving:.

  1- the overseer: looked really bored, trying to impress surroundings by talking loud and how he can talk to immigration and check on passengers.

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  konceptual-ize the scene ! 99 !
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  pros and cons of anti depessants?

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. friends

  obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.

  i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.

  anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.

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  I have been in the big-D since 2010 - 30 + months of dark hell.

  Was first put on a combination of paxil and Molipaxin?? which turned me into a Zombie and i tried suicide twice.

  Then Ciprilex - no change

  Now on Effexor [Venlafaxine] and it kicked in within 3 weeks and I am now in "remission" "

  Please note : you gotta work out your own modality but it will have to be multi-leveled ie Psychology / Psychiatry / Exercise / CBT / family support etc etc

  I was dead scared of going on with meds after the Paxil episode but the Effexor is working - However I believe it is a "bitch" to come off. I forgot to take it a few times and within 6 hours I was dipping and getting "brain-zaps"

  And ......................not being involved in religion was one of the biggest +'s toward recovery !

  Actually when I was truly in "the Vale of Deep Shadow" with the D NOT ONE of my fellow elders even came to visit me !

  It got me heading for the door more rapidly.
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  Song #29: "Walking in Integrity" plagiarizes a song that was inspired by demons!

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  [earlier today i posted this onanother thread about kingdom melodies.

  i decided to repost in its own thread because i am sure most of us don't know the facts about this song and would be very suprised.

  enjoy!].

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  Now this has got to be one of the finest and best presented topics in a long time !!!!

  So happy to discover 2 at least and there are many more of you - who are Muso's too !!!

  Oubliette your presentation is spot on - both Wifey and I [we are both University trained Muso's ] agree

  And Compound Complex got a hint elsewhere on this Forum that you too are not only Linguistically sound but sound in music too [Puns intended!]

  For years we have said that this song is just like Stella by Starlight but your detailed analysis confirms much more .......! Its a knock-off !

  Sorry Neonmadman - while I strongly agree that it is possible for us to inadvertantly pen a piece of music because we just happen to carry thousands of tunes around in our heads I think the "evidence" so well presented here tends to favour a knock-off. Dont be offended. There is another song which sounds like the start of the Aussie National Anthem [Just cant put finger on the name and #]

  CC and Apognophos well done on digging up the Mindy Carson / #72 one - Boy you guys are fast..........................this is what happens with a "Diseased Mind" you know !!!!!!

  BTW who else here is a musician ?

  Regards

  Cape Town

  South Africa
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  Israel's Defense

  by Paris in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is interesting.

  lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

  i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

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  Or my "born-again" family over in Denver CO sending me "dinkum true" eye-witness reports of Hamas fighters seeing the forms of giant men in the sky taking hold of their missiles in mid-flight as God used His heavenly host to "protect" the Israeli cause

  3 sides to the story : Israel vs Palestinian vs the one you choose to go with ...............................
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  Israel's Defense

  by Paris in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is interesting.

  lots of posts praising and defending palestinians .

  i have yet to see one post from anyone defending israel.

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  So I started reading this topic with some interest and there are 2 posters trading gentle blows and proffering their fairly interesting views on the IP situation. [None of us here are true experts on the issues anyways] and then enter stage left some who are hellbent on pushing their views and stabbing at the participants even without having a lot of facts themselves etc as if they are the sole experts on the subject !

  Why must there always be some who have to “attack” – Why cant you just offer your view and disagree in a reasonable way??

  Jeez some of you must have been shit to be around even IN the Kingdom halls and organisation. Thank F—k you are out ! At least your lost bretheren who are still “in” don’t have to endure your toxic personalities.

  And then the whole topic is ruined for all ~!
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  Question for current and former elders: did you feel qualified to give counsel for depression?

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  do you feel the counseling demands placed on elders are fair and scriptural?.

  i live in an economically depressed industial city.

  my dad is an elder in a lower income black congregation.

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  Elder for 15 years and then fell into deep dark depression myself + 2 suicide attempts - Not one of my fellow body called on me - FACT. Only a really top class Psychiatrist managed to assist me through this but it required a lot of support from my wife and kids> I had to use meds as well and still do [Venlafaxine] I originally was up at the 300mg/day - now at 75 mg/day.

  It requires a Multi-pronged approach

  To repeat what has already been said here:

  JW elders should not even try to counsel - just advise that victim gets professional help / assist them to get help /

  The "saving grace" is that depression is now exploding in congregations [and this was confirmed to me by a co's wife] and so there is a sensitivity by some congo elders to the matter - once you have been to Hell and Back you truly are qualified to be empathetic but only then.

  My fading and no longer being on the body, not attending meetings and FS has assisted me greatly to be able to deal with my D.

  Knowing the TTATT has also proven helpful.

  You know someone depressed? Help them please ! And their families as they suffer greatly too. [My wife is now recovering from double Mastectomy and Chemo - maybe my D was a contributing factor]

  Feel free to PM if you want to talk - I will "listen" without judgement.
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  somatic pain

  by lambsbottom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did anyone ever get somatic pain when they would get ready for meeting?

  i would get horrible middle back pain that would sometimes flare but would always flare when i was getting ready for meeting..

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  I used to get very depressed coupled with pain around the kidney region[this was a precursor to full blown deep dark depression which cut me down for 30 months or so ]Depression stopped when I stopped attending. And un-eldered myself.

  btw depression is now huge in the congos especially elders [and their families]
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  Circuit Overseer cutbacks?

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was announced at our meeting tonight that our co (who is actually a pretty good sort) and his wife have been reassigned as regular pioneers.

  they are both relatively young (50s) and have been used extensively by the society recently.

  as far as i know there are no personal issues.

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  Our man and his missus [really top class humans] have been reassigned to another country to assist at its Bethel. In his case this would hardly be a demotion.

  I too wonder if in the not-too-distant future the CO will be very localised.
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  South Africa Bethel Dance Party!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  south africa bethel dance party.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm1jhbapb1u.petra

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ca2uVZuiY0&feature=player_detailpage

  Johnny Clegg

  Great "White" muso / Anthropologist and fluent speaker of the Zulu language.

  Yes the South African Bethel is now large - a lot of the translation is not even done there but on "satellite" campuses in certain other cities.

  Enjoy the music clip !!! Let me know what you think of it please

  AFRIKANMAN - Cape Town