Cool some good points there.
-TE
things ex-jw's need to know in order to heal and move on.. ***.
1.you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. look at how you are feeling most of the time.
that sense of going nowhere and feeling down is not because you aren't spritual enough.
Cool some good points there.
-TE
wouldn't being "mentally diseased" give you a pass at armageddon?
the wt claims that apostates are "mentally diseased".
most of us are aware of this claim on this forum.
Wouldn't Being "Mentally Diseased" Give You a Pass at Armageddon?
The WT claims that apostates are "mentally diseased". Most of us are aware of this claim on this forum. (sorry don't have the WT quote)
Wouldn't a person with mental illness get a pass at Armageddon - since they are not capable of proper mental function?
Wouldn't that mean then that all apostates, given their "mentally diseased" status, get that same pass????
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Other questions:
Should't you pity a person with a mental illness instead of treat them with disdain and judgement?
What psychotherapy and/or medications are used in the treatment of apostasy?
Do Jehovah's Witnesses disfellowship and shun all mentally ill people? or just apostates?
Inquiring minds want to know...
-TE
2014 snap conference report.
posted on august 20, 2014 by barbara.
from august 1 3, kerry louderback wood* and i attended the 2014 annual snap** conference, which was also its twenty-fifth anniversary celebration, in chicago, illinois.. .
Good work Barbara ...you're awesome.
Sad when people claiming to represent God Almighty are more interested in what's best for the corporation... Sad indeed.
-TE
as i was growing up in a household with my grandparents, i heard a certain phrase hundreds of times, "well, you know what they say .
and i wondered: "who are "they"?.
it was my first encounter with shapeless, formless, invisible, abstract, non-descript, and anonymous authority.. the premise seemed to say:.
Yeah good post.
The WT is like a sleazy contractor who drags the job into infinity and never stops asking for more money.
aka crooks.
-TE
a great article i stumbled across this morning http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/05/10-reasons-you-should-never-have-a-religion/.
while consciously pursuing your spiritual development is commendable, joining an established religion such as christianity, islam, or hinduism is one of the worst ways to go about it.
in this article ill share 10 reasons why you must eventually abandon the baggage of organized religion if you wish to pursue conscious living in earnest.. since christianity is currently the worlds most popular religion, ill slant this article towards christianitys ubiquitous failings.
Blessed are the poor (donate heavily). Blessed are the meek (obey). Blessed are the humble (don’t question authority). Blessed are the hungry (make us rich while you starve). Blessed are the merciful (if you catch us doing something wrong, let it go). Blessed are the pure of heart (switch off your brain). Blessed are the timid, the cowardly, the fearful. Blessed are those who give us their power and become our slaves. Muahahaha!
I enjoyed that...
-TE
i've been working on a side project for a while.
the goal of the project is to create a comprehensive database of all publications throughout history.
with this database i will be able to instantly find trends in text,sentiment of writing, methods used, and scriptures emphasized.. essentially i will be able to put a word like "apostate" into my tool, and instantly receive a report showing every time the word (or similar words) has been used in all publications since 1870.. i will also be able to create reports showing word density used in publications over time.. so i'll be able to see that the word "governing body" has increased in usage 25% year over year since 1975.. or i will be able to analyze the november 2014 wt and run an algorithm that helps to determine, what the tone and motive of the writing is.. the thing that i am most excited about is the ability to instantly find every occurence of a scripture in every publication.. this will be a great tool to find flip flops in doctrine as well as inaccuracies in biblical interpretation.. i will for sure publish all interesting findings here.. .
Cool data!
-TE
i've been working on a side project for a while.
the goal of the project is to create a comprehensive database of all publications throughout history.
with this database i will be able to instantly find trends in text,sentiment of writing, methods used, and scriptures emphasized.. essentially i will be able to put a word like "apostate" into my tool, and instantly receive a report showing every time the word (or similar words) has been used in all publications since 1870.. i will also be able to create reports showing word density used in publications over time.. so i'll be able to see that the word "governing body" has increased in usage 25% year over year since 1975.. or i will be able to analyze the november 2014 wt and run an algorithm that helps to determine, what the tone and motive of the writing is.. the thing that i am most excited about is the ability to instantly find every occurence of a scripture in every publication.. this will be a great tool to find flip flops in doctrine as well as inaccuracies in biblical interpretation.. i will for sure publish all interesting findings here.. .
Cool - look forward to what you find!
-TE
what is your theory on the reason that prompted that?
the intend?
the hoped-for outcome?.
OneEyedjoe,
I like your explanation. It certainly does look like 2034 is begging to be the next big road marker.
The Noah thing is there, but I hadn't thought of the overlap equation pointing to the same year.
I tell you this... They can enjoy the next date-setting debacle without me!
-TE
i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.
I believe in a Creator. I see design in nature. We just happen to have a moon at night for instance.
It is just my opinion.
If the creator wanted to be seen, though, it wouldn't take much to get the attention of the entire earth.
I think that most of the population would be quite pleased for that to happen, actually.
Until it does...
Religion is an attempt to make certain what is entirely uncertain.
I would even add that Religion is a "Certainty Fantasy".
-TE
it's been quite a while since i lasted posted anything on jwn.
i was in hiding previously, but only because i wanted to avoid the shun gun until i had the opportunity to tell my former congregation what i think about the org./gb.
i last attended a meeting over 2.5 years ago but it wasn't until june--when i earned my bachelor's degree--that i finally had the time to collect my thoughts and get them down on paper...i decided to write my letter in a style i felt would be most appealing to my target audience--jw's still under gb mind control --in the hope that at least a few would read it and actually "think".
Good stuff. I really liked that last reply...
The elder's whole premise of "look what the org gave you" is just a way of changing the subject. It also reminds me of the typical abuser that will say things like - "You were nothing before me" - "Look at what I've given you" - "Look at what I've done for you" - all in an attempt to control the abused, make them feel guilty, scared, and obligated to stay.
Having done whatever "good" things a person or organization has done does not excuse abuse. This organization abusively threatens to take your family and friends away from you, publicly defame you, block you from "everlasting life" through their "sin against the holy spirit" doctrine concerning apostacy, promise you eternal destruction at Armageddon, etc etc. This is all emotional and mental abuse. Period.
Their indoctrination ploys are obvious and embarrassing as well.
If they are the "Lilly-white christians delivering nuggets of eternal truths" they claim to be, then why are they holding a gun to people's heads?
Seems just a tad bit contradictory.
Sorry for the rant... thanks for posting the replies.
-TE