Posts by TTATTelder

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I questioned some Mormons today

by joe134cd in

as a result of my fading from the jw religion, i have taken an interest in the mormon religion.

personally i think mormonisim is a bigger con than the jw religion.

with all knowledge i've been acquiring, i was interested to find out what the followers of the mormon religion knew about the churches history.

TTATTelder

I agree with ShirleyW.

Firstly it's hard to say one is a bigger con than the other. They are both selling absolute fiction as the secret truths of the universe.

I use the Mormons often as a good reference point for JW's that think the "brotherhood" is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you have ever been to a middle-size or smaller town in Utah, the Mormons have accomplished exponentially more in the way of building community than the WT ever will. It is like walking around in a modern day "Leave it to Beaver" episode.

Basically, JW's have a conservative group of relatively passive people that are supposed to be living by basic christian standards.

Mormons have that in spades! I would say the Mormons have JW's beat hands down in that department. They might not have the racial diversity, but i think generally speaking the average Mormon is a better and more devout person than the average JW.

Oh and ditto what Terry said above...

-TE

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Poster country flags and privacy

by Simon in

the new forum originally had a little country flag next to each post showing the country that the post was made from based on the geoip encoding (the country the ip address is from).

before i switched over to the new site someone made an issue about it violating their privacy and i didn't want to complicate and confuse the switchover with policy debate at the same time as technical issues so removed the flags even though i disagreed.. someone has already requested it as a feature and i think it should be added back so i thought it's now time to open the discussion and get everyone's opinions.

first, the reason i think it should be shown:.

TTATTelder

I don't care.

-TE

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If Ebola got to the G.B

by Phizzy in

if ebola got to the g.b, some contracted it, the others were likely to develop it, and the only sure cure was 100% blood from ebola survivors, how quick do you think there would be some new light ?

TTATTelder

I like the proposition. This stuff is fun. I say some would be martyrs and others would do whatever they wanted medically speaking in secrecy. If new light came out it would be after the fact and anyone that knew anything about their treatments would be under a gag order with the threat of a lawsuit for leaking anything.

-TE

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LDC Semininar

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

ldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .

entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.

oversight.

TTATTelder

Thanks toesup and so true. I often see boe letters on here day of or one day after they are available to elders on .org lol

-TE

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Does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 Yearbook yet?

by berrygerry in

does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 yearbook yet?.

(isn't it usually out by now - or are they waiting to celebrate new year's day?

).

TTATTelder

Honestly those numbers are pathetic. All that 1914 - 2014 hype with international conventions all over the place and baptisms are DOWN???!!!!! Every stinky little JW kid older than 7 was guilt tripped into taking the plunge last year. Our convention baptism section looked like a middle school field trip!

Plus they pulled out all the stops for peak pubs in Aug. Any kid over 4 and anything close to a bible study was guilt tripped into becoming an unbaptised publisher in Aug (which is the peak month as we know anyway) for the late-announced grand ole JW.org campaign. So they had to play games to inflate the number to a measly 2.2%!!!!!!

Wow....just wow. Expect flat growth at best in pubs and bigger declines next year in baptisms. They will never have the 100 years of kingdom rule trick to play again and practically all the kids are dunked now.

-TE

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Everlasting Life on Paradise Earth - My musings of why it cannot be true

by leaving_quietly in

actually, just one musing.. there are a number of scriptures that wtbts uses to support their doctrine of everlasting life on paradise earth.

the vast majority come from the hebrew scriptures.

using just one verse, i believe i can disprove this doctrine quite soundly.. the verse is john 6:68.. simon peter answered him: lord, whom shall we go away to?

TTATTelder

Great point. The disciples knew those scriptures in psalms and such were just over the top songs about future blessings from Jah / promised land yada yada...No real outlined purpose or plans for the future restoration of Eden for the "great crowd" and all that. I swear the more this TTATT stuff sinks in the more comical jw beliefs sound.

-TE

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Jw.org on disfellowshipping

by d in

jw
friends

here is what the jw's say about disfellowinshipping.

i can not seem to past the text from their website help.. .

TTATTelder

The only spiritual counsel any df person gets is "attend all the meetings and check back with us in 6 months .... Oh and stop doing whatever you were df'd for"

such BS ... They write it like counseling services are available continuously. I guess you could hound the elders and constantly ask for a meeting, but that would only work a couple of times. The df person would be avoided like the plague after that.

-TE

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LDC Semininar

by Sour Grapes in

jw
friends

ldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .

entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.

oversight.

TTATTelder

I had a conversation with a brother that is involved with scoping out the costs of building these new "Kingdom Halls". I spouted off about what I knew about the design changes and the new plans (which I learned from this thread lol) and he asked how I knew all this because it was suppose to be confidential. He told me he has seen pics and blueprints for these new commercial units. I'm not sure if the pics were real buildings or digital drawings though.

-TE

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