Posts by TTATTelder

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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

by MrFreeze in

i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

TTATTelder

My wife and I were counseled to not arrive at the Kingdom Hall in separate cars because it looked like we are having marital problems.

The fact that we were coming straight from work didn't matter.

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Is The Governing Body Over Jehovah's Witnesses A Bunch Of Arrogant Old Retirees Considering After All That They Claim To Be Christ's Right Hand Man Directing His Dad's Organization On Earth?

by frankiespeakin in

these guys believe that they are running and directing "god's organization" and it is all based on some flimsy parable interpetation about a master who left a slave in charge while he went away with the outcome uncertain upon his return.

not a very solid case to be pointedly honest.

jesus would have made a better choice of donald trump to run his father's business/watchtower corporation, he's less arrogant and doesn't discourage higher education, and plastic children's toys are not a major concern of his.. what is arrogance?.

TTATTelder

The venom comes from being lied to.

Not many here were ever emotionally invested in the lies of other religions as can be ascertained by the name of this website.

Maybe you don't get it yet, Saul, but you've been duped.

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The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..

TTATTelder

Their biggest fear right now is that everybody will look at their calendars and say

"2014! What the hell? These dumb arses have been beating this drum for a hundred freaking years!

....the hell with them ....I'm relaxing on Sat mornings and taking a day trip every Sunday."

That's their biggest fear. Thus the double-down on fear, guilt, and authority-structure watchtower lessons.

It's also the reason for all these international conventions - to distract from the obvious embarrassment that this year is.

TTATTelder

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The Watchtower religion(JWS), that really couldn't fail, from beginning to ........

by Finkelstein in

when one looks back retrospectively at the very beginning of this organization, you could see that the wts.. was on a structural platform of success, created by cunningly created doctrines, such as the invisible return of.

christ, the end times and the imminently soon to come armageddon, all bundled together.. .. this religious organization like so many others established in the united states was unregulated and had.

no upper governing control over its daily operations.. they proclaimed and taught what they wanted to or needed to sustain their operations as a publishing house.. .

TTATTelder

I am currently an elder and am getting to the point that I just can't stomach it anymore.

It's true about the enforcer stuff. We tell ourselves we are here for the friends, but what are we allowed to even say to them?

It's their (GB's) game. The elders' meetings are 90% about deciphering what the "arrangement" is. In other words "what are the rules?"

It's "christian congregation" this and "christian congregation" that. All the latest buzz words for the governing body and their legal dept. It gets on my nerves.

Men feel powerful and important to represent a large company/organization that has authority.

Honestly it feels like a big ploy for control and continuance of what a bunch of men at the top (and middle) think is a good thing. They have a bunch of people giving them reverence and honour as if they/we represent God. They also have a perfect plan to keep their wives and kids in line. Don't get me started on some elders' preoccupation with the "headship arrangement".

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Millions Now Living Will Definitely Die

by TTATTelder in

that's what the title should've been.. but i guess that wouldn't have attracted any suckers....

TTATTelder

I think they started with "May" and then got full of themselves and upped the ante.

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Millions Now Living Will Definitely Die

by TTATTelder in

that's what the title should've been.. but i guess that wouldn't have attracted any suckers....

TTATTelder

That's what the title should've been.

But I guess that wouldn't have attracted any suckers...

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13,204 memorial partakers for 2013

by EndofMysteries in

hahahahha going up up up.

the new yearbook is finally on jw.org.

TTATTelder

But da end b so close ya'll !!!!!!

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been on jwn for about a year, here is what i've learned or had an inkling about

by nowwhat? in

the organization:.

engages in revisionist history [1914 christ's presense foretold].

judge rutherford was a false prophet and a crook [1925, beth-serim].

TTATTelder

Amen.

My exit will take much longer unfortunately.

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oh dear I think I messed up and pushed too hard

by Frazzled UBM in

reading all the posts on the wt study on higher education and careers really fired me up yesterday.

i have 2 undergraduate and 2 postgraduate degerees and a career as a result which allows me to provide well for my jw wife and son.

i was already unhappy because after 5 or 6 weeks of not going and appearing to be making progress she went back on sunday for the second sunday in a row and as usual was away all day.

TTATTelder

I just did the same thing. I went off on the org to my born-in wife last night after a few margaritas.

This stuff is going to spew out sometimes. I have just reframed it today as concerns over things I see and needing to vent and gave reassurances of my love for her.

I don't know how much damage I did. She cried herself to sleep, but I plan on love-bombing her for a few days to win points.

Use the organization's tactics against them. (I do actually love my wife, so it is much more sincere then the org stuff)

You can pretty easily reframe the blow-up also as you found it personally insulting and could throw in a "sorry IF I overreacted" sort of thing.

Better to have peace and control emotion in this stuff. Hard to do sometimes as I learned last night.

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Society stating they have no special Holy Spirit

by cognac in

i remember them stating something to that affect.

does anybody know where this was said?.

TTATTelder

I love the whole "we aren't inspired" "we aren't infallible" bit. (False humility.)

But you guys are "Jehovah's channel of communication on earth today"?

What's the damn difference? I guess the uneducated rank and file don't recognize when sombody is playing semantics.

Well I guess you won't mind if I questioned a few of your uninspired, possibly mistaken, not-infallible teachings at the next congregation meeting?

Also let me remind the GB what a channel of communication is. It is a direct messenger. Claiming to be GOD's channel is to say you are passing messages from God to us. How could you not be infallible? Are you saying God's messages are not infallible? That sounds like dangerous ground. Are you saying that you muddy the channel? Also dangerous ground. Do you add to and/or take away from the messages? Are you saying that the channel, like old tv sets, sometimes tunes in and sometimes doesn't? Sounds like you need to admit you are not what you claim to be.

Also a "body of truth" doesn't have to be refined. It is freaking true already, otherwise it's not a "body of truth" at all, it's a mixed bag of truth and falsehood. So if you are constantly refining a mixed bag of truth and falsehood, then why should anybody listen to you?

I can come up with my own mixed bag and I won't fool myself or anybody else into thinking God is speaking through me.

Just like you expect your followers to be 100% loyal to you, I expect my channel of communication from God to be 100% correct. That's kind of how it works.