Can anyone pass along this message and have him message me. I PM'd him
lambsbottom
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Hey "RR", I need to talk to you! Owner of Biblestudents.net
by lambsbottom incan anyone pass along this message and have him message me.
i pm'd him.
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Rutherford and Salvation For All
by lambsbottom incan anyone direct me towards the first article where rutherford changed the whole "salvation for all" doctrine?
this must have been a huge shift, since russell believed that christ died for the sins of all and that no one would be destroyed at armageddom, but would have a full chance in a world withouth oppressive religion & governements, to show obedience and not go into second death.. seems to good to be true!
lol.
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lambsbottom
Can anyone direct me towards the first article where Rutherford changed the whole "Salvation for all" doctrine? This must have been a huge shift, since Russell believed that Christ died for the sins of ALL and that no one would be destroyed at Armageddom, but would have a full chance in a world withouth oppressive religion & governements, to show obedience and not go into second death.
Seems to good to be true! You know what they say! LOL
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Two Tests Before Everlasting Life?
by lambsbottom inso, even if jws of the great crowd are found faithful and sparred at armageddon, they still have to prove faithful at the final judgement at the end of 1,000 years, right?
or, are jws of the great crowd assured they will pass the final judgement.
two tests doesnt sound fair!.
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lambsbottom
So, even if JWs of the Great Crowd are found faithful and sparred at Armageddon, they still have to prove faithful at the final judgement at the end of 1,000 years, right? Or, are JWs of the Great Crowd assured they will pass the final judgement. Two tests doesnt sound fair!
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2014 Annual Meeting Online
by toweragent ini don't know if anybody is interested, but they put the entire 2014 annual meeting online at tv.jw.org if you can stomach it.
it will be nice to finally verify or disprove some of the rumors that have been flying around.
enjoy!.
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lambsbottom
Around 3hrs into the Annual Meeting video, Mr. Lett is giving atalk regarding parables. He says that the ten virgins parable is about annointed christians staying faithful. Then he says that the "evil slave" parable in Matthew is also directed at annointed Christians if they were to not fullfill their duties (as in individually). I thought the Faithful slave was the Governing Body! But, the would be evil slave would be just the annointed Christians who proved unfaithful? This seems strange, since the "faithful slave" is said to be a 7 member governing body, but the "evil slave" is individual annointed Christians.
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Frieking Bethel Heavies/COs and their second rings!
by lambsbottom indude, every picture i see of any bethel heavies or gb members (a lot of cos also) have them wearing a second huge gold ring!
this is a clear sign of "hey i'm a bigshot!
" you just dont see that in interviews of celebrities or politicials.
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lambsbottom
Dude, every picture I see of any Bethel heavies or GB members (a lot of COs also) have them wearing a second huge gold ring! This is a clear sign of "hey I'm a bigshot!" You just dont see that in interviews of celebrities or politicials. One wedding ring is standard. Two is a sign of prominence or pretending your prominent. Just a social thing. Bunch of narcissists.
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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter
by lambsbottom inwife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?
true?
references?.
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lambsbottom
wife says she always thought the WT said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive? true? references?
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Sleep Problems
by lambsbottom inso, about a week and a half ago i finally realized that i am not longer one of jws, since i don't believe they are god's organization.. however, for two weeks, i have slept horrible!
my spouse thinks its stress.
i sleep all night but just don't feel that rested in the morning.
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lambsbottom
Thanks y'all!!!
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Sleep Problems
by lambsbottom inso, about a week and a half ago i finally realized that i am not longer one of jws, since i don't believe they are god's organization.. however, for two weeks, i have slept horrible!
my spouse thinks its stress.
i sleep all night but just don't feel that rested in the morning.
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lambsbottom
Hi everyone,
So, about a week and a half ago I finally realized that I am not longer one of JWs, since I don't believe they are God's organization.
However, for two weeks, I have slept horrible! My spouse thinks its stress. I sleep all night but just don't feel that rested in the morning. My Chiropractor friend recommended a sleep study.
Thoughts?
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Bible Students Question
by lambsbottom ini've know ttatt for over three years.
stopped going to meetings three months ago.
i recently contacted the bible students.
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lambsbottom
Thanks everyone, for the responses!
Yes, I successfully woke up spouse. He/she was actually fully out before me! Go figure! I guess I just couldn't let it go. Last straw for me was learning what Russell ACTUALLY taught. I then realized that Rutherford was the apostate!
Kids are small. Im keeping all the old bound volumes I have in storage, just in case extended family tried to sell them on this cult!
Regarding fading, it is easy for me. Me and my family moved out of state a couple years ago. I kinda pulled my wife with me but it was the best thing for me. Went to meetings here for about a year and a half. But, Elders here are so overworked and constantly move in and out of the halls, they didnt even notice or come after me. Thanks God!
To anyone that still believes in God, please pray for the lost souls that are JWs. They truly are captives of a concept. May we heap fiery coals upon their head with our behavior.
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Bible Students Question
by lambsbottom ini've know ttatt for over three years.
stopped going to meetings three months ago.
i recently contacted the bible students.
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lambsbottom
Okay y'all,
I've know TTATT for over three years. Stopped going to meetings three months ago. I recently contacted the Bible Students. Very nice people Have to admit that I am paranoid about cults, though. I have been told by one of the Bible Students that many of them disagree on certain topics and that I don't HAVE to believe anything to associate with them. I still have much zeal for Jehovah and his son, even after being completely screwed by the JWs. With that being said, can anyone confirm that I don't have to believe anything in particular, with exception to the trinity being false, soul sleep, no burning hell, etc.? I've been fooled once! As I said to one of the Bible Students around here: I consider every group/religion a cult until proven innocent. Maybe not the most healthy but NEVER AGAIN will I give my mind to anyone but God! The Bible Students almost seem to good to be....well ya know! And don't worry, I wouldn't even dream of joining anything for a YEAR from now...if EVER!
I also much give a big shout out to this forum. I officially have successfully faded and no longer consider myself.....well ya know the rest! Y'all helped so much with questions, scans of articles, support, etc. And yes, I have written under different screen names over the past three years (never as a JW apologist, though). Sorry! Had to keep anonymous!
Another big thanks to JWFacts! This site gave my mind the FACTS it needed to wake the heck up, and not just "hey look at these subliminal messages in the WT". LOL
It is good to be finally out and free. Praise Jehovah and his son! May the poor souls in the JWs make their way out and taste freedom!