Posts by yxl1

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What do they do with all that cash?

by yxl1 in

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i dont understand why the wts doesnt donate some of its time and resources to charity.

surely helping others in need would classify as a (the) christian act, and would bring a good witness.

imagine peoples perspective of the wts if they helped financially with high profile disasters.

yxl1

what did you think ?

I really dont know what they did with their money, which is why I asked. I read Bill Bowens radio transcript on slientlambs.org where he makes the observation that money given to the WTS is used to fight court cases, but I dont think they're spending all of their cash on protecting baptised paedophiles. Even if they invest their money, its only going to make more money. So what are they spending this money on?

These brothers in charge of the accounts and their families go to the best private schools and colleges trips vacations

That might explain a few hundred grand, but I'm still miffed at where the rest of the cash is going. Again, I'm asking because this topic came up with a JW who said that ALL the cash is being spent on speading the "word". I dont believe that for a second, but I didnt have any argument against it.

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What direction is the organization going in?

by Elsewhere in

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it seems to me that they are holding fast to their legalistic views.

what will the result of this be?

i think that the result will be a more closed society.

yxl1

...right up their own arses

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What do they do with all that cash?

by yxl1 in

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i dont understand why the wts doesnt donate some of its time and resources to charity.

surely helping others in need would classify as a (the) christian act, and would bring a good witness.

imagine peoples perspective of the wts if they helped financially with high profile disasters.

yxl1

I don’t understand why the WTS doesn’t donate some of its time and resources to charity. Surely helping others in need would classify as a (the) Christian act, and would bring a “good witness”. Imagine peoples perspective of the WTS if they helped financially with high profile disasters. The positive media coverage itself would be worth more than a million hours of door knocking. With the amount of wealth built up over the years, they would be in a position to help millions of people each year. This would raise/change their profile from being just doorknockers selling a poor mans reader’s digest. The bible is stuffed full of examples of helping others, and yet gives only a few mentions of the apostles doing “door to door” work. (Taking into account variations in translation, I think there are only 4). Preaching the “Good news” does not classify as charity, no matter how you look at it.

Which brings me onto my next point. What the hell do they do with all that cash? Someone mentioned that the WTS has an annual turnover of 1 billion dollars. I can’t imagine the GB speeding around in sports cars and living the high life of hookers, coke and champagne. All Kingdom halls are bought either by loans from the society or by the local JW community. I’ve seen the JW propaganda videos and I know for a fact they don’t spend ANY money of fashion. So what do they do with the cash? One witness I spoke to said they use it to further the “work” in poor countries, pay for Assemblies, and to pay for CO/DO living expenses. That doesn’t hold water. I’ve read many examples of entire African congregations forced into sharing a few magazines during the Watchtower study. CO’s and DO’s only get pennies from the society and again the local congregation are expected to cough up for the privilege of the visit. And if memory serves me correct, we all made donations to help fund assemblies. If anyone knows what they do with their cash, I’d like to know.

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Some People Stay Witnesses Because They Don't Want To Think For Themselves

by minimus in

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i've come to that conclusion.

some would rather not have to think about a position, a prophecy, a requirement or a belief.

they really would rather follow the dictates of leaders of an organization.

yxl1

True, Some people stay witnesses because they dont want to think for themselves. But before slamming them all as braindead zombies, wouldnt it be fair to mention that some stay witnesses because they believe in it 100%? Some stay out of fear, some out of peer presure. Some out of habit, some out of laziness. Some stay because of a loved one, some stay for friendship. Some stay for their own personal power trips, and some because they would have nothing else in their lives. I could (do) go on.

Just a thought

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-27-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-27-03 wt study

comments by the reviewer will be in black and parentheses ().

see jwd topic on class distinctions (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/55841/1.ashx).

yxl1

For if YOU love those loving YOU, what reward do YOU have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? 47 And if YOU greet YOUR brothers only, what extraordinary thing are YOU doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing?

Thanks for all your hard work, Blondie. I really enjoy these threads of yours

yxl1

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Any talks from the hall or assembly still stick out in your mind ???

by run dont walk in

i will never forget a talk at the assembly where the speaker had a 6 year old child on stage,.

and the experience went something like this.. while at school, the child said something to another schoolmate to the effect of ............................. "i cannot associate with you, because bad association spoil useful habits.".

"and if you don't serve jehovah, you will be destroyed at armageddon.".

yxl1

For some reason, the only talk I can recall was the one about sexual relationships (the do's and donts) Watching this poor Elder explain why O-sex was against God while glowing deeper shades of red will always stick in my mind. I would be horrified if someone started talking about such topics infront of my kids now.

Oh, I almost forgot the always entertaining "telling off" talks on a thursday. Whenever someone within the congregation had done something "wrong", there would always be a talk about it. All you had to do was scan the brothers and sisters faces to see who was being refered to. My personal admonition talk was on the dangers of video nasties (I was caught watching the Evil Dead movie), but I'll always remember when two Elders teenage children were caught "arousing" each over. The talk was very very harsh and the elder giving the talk didnt take his eyes off the poor young sister who sat through the entire talk crying. Again, I cant believe people allow their own children to be humilated in public...Sick

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THIS IS HOW TO CRUMBLE THE wtbts!!

by Special K in

i was reading "run dont walks" topic on "when the governing body dies off then what happens?

" great post.. what we need to do, since there are alot of just "faded" members of the j.w.

organization here with us is this... next year, all you just faded ones, (the ones not disfellowshipped or disassociated) go to the memorial and "drink the wine and eat the unleavened bread"... .. brilliant isnt it.

yxl1

eat and drink them ALL

Are you mad!! Have you ever tasted that stuff. The "bread" tastes like cardboard and the wine....oh, it's too horrible to describe. How do I know? They used to hand it out after the memorial was finished to anyone stupid enough to taste it. One taste of that stuff was enough to make anyone glad they weren't part of the 144000

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Class Distinction Within The JW Community?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

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has anyone noticed that jws who appear to be higher up on the 'socio-economic' ladder get special treatment at the kh?

no matter how many khs i've visited, i've noticed that jws who are not well off socially/financially/physically are treated with less respect/dignity than those with a business of their own, or just a higher quality of life.

i've been to many 'gatherings' where jws filter themselves out according to race or socio-economic standing.

yxl1

Mary,

I've been associated with two Kingdom halls in my time. Your thread described BOTH to a T!

funny yet sad

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When the governing body die off, then what happens ??? Another "new class"

by run dont walk in

i am presumming that all of the governing body are of the "annoited class" and up there in age.. so what happens when they can no longer look after things, which should be soon, there are no other annoited really to take over.

and 10 years from now all the supposed "annoited ones" will be gone.. whta will become of the governing body ??????.

the watchtower must be a bit worried.. will there be "new light" and make up a new body ?????

yxl1

In "Search for Christian Freedom", Ray Franz makes it clear that most of the writing of the WTS books and magazines are NOT written by the anointed. Also I recall an elder stating that some people who are not of the anointed class can become anointed. If someone that claims to be anointed looses faith, their position is filled (presumabliy by someone much younger) In other words, they'll always have someone to keep the torch burning. Thats their "get out of jail free" card.

This kind of stuff doesnt seem to bother the rank and file, especially the younger generation. Talking to my BIL and his JW friends at the w/e, it came clear that they have no idea of past doctrines,current administration or changing ideas.They didnt even know half of the current teachings. It doesnt matter. As long as they attend 5 times a week and do slightly more than 8 hours per month, they've paid their dues. I doubt this is something encouraged by the GB, but keeping the masses at a certain level of ignorance, definately works in their favor.

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My 1st Birthday

by frogit in

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guess what?

i have been posting here for a whole year .

i have learnt so much from this forum and thank you all for the great posts, a very great thank you to simon for all the hard work and time spent helping us all.

yxl1

So as not to offend any JW lerkers, lets call it a 1st anniversary