Posts by yxl1

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Oh no ... I think I'm addicted to exams !

by Simon in

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lol.

just passed myself another of them there eeks-zams: .

070-291 implementing, managing and maintinaing a windows server 2003 network infrastructure.

yxl1

You geeky nerd you. I'm quite amazed at the amount of Microsoft exams out there. Is it just another way for microsoft to lift hard earned off of punters? I've just finished my Solaris 9 administration certificate and Solaris 9 Networking Certificate, and I've got one left to do (security certification), but unlike you I cannot face anymore are that. The sleepless nights, the worry, the endless studying...agghhh.

Dont know how you do it mate, but I wish you didnt. You just make the rest of us IT people look like slackers.

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The Governing Body

by cameo in

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do you think the top men (the governing body) of the wts really believe they are proclaiming the truth??

or do you think some of them know the wts is a bunch of bunk.....and just don't care??.

yxl1

In a way, I'd prefer it if they knew it was all hogwash and were just pulling a fast one. At least that way one could understand why they feel the need to distroy millions of lives for a few billion dollors. However, I honestly think that these guys DO believe that they are proclaiming the truth...and that they're gods chosen people...and that just makes it all the more frightening.

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What Makes Some ExJWs So Angry & Others So Pleasant???

by minimus in

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from what i can see, it appears that some exwitnesses are either handling life outside the organization pretty well or not well at all.

i wonder if some persons simply, by nature are angry, unhappy persons while others are naturally good, "honest-hearted ones" that simply want to find some measure of happiness.

yxl1

I'm angry that I had no choice in the matter

I'm angry that I never experienced X-mas/B'days etc as a child

I'm angry that mum allowed elders/MS/whoever publically discipline/humiliate us

I'm angry that I lived in constant fear of being killed at A.

I'm angry that I was "marked" by my congregation, yet no one would tell me why

I'm angry that I had to lead a double life just to have a friend or two

I'm angry that I feared demons would get me at night

I'm angry at the amount of physical abuse that went "unnoticed" in my old congregation

I'm angry that a bunch of old men had such a strong control over my life

I'm angry at myself for not putting my foot down as a child and refused to attend the KH

I'm angry that I has constantly kicked out of the house for refusing to attend the KH

I'm angry that I was never allowed to participate in national and internation athletics (or any extracurricular sport)

I'm angry that I was never allowed to attend Uni, and was encouraged to become a carpenter...(?) yeah go figure

I'm angry at the racism we had to swallow because a bad word could never be said about the elders.

However, the amount of anger I once had bottled up is now starting to fade. This site has helped me a lot. Its almost like I've had to re-open old wounds for them to heal back properly. I'll always be an angry guy, but as I'm getting older, all the shitty things I endured for the first 15 years of my life now almost seem like they happened to someone else. Also, in a really selfish kind of way, the experiences recorded on this site has made me realise that many of you had it a lot worse that I did...and thats a comfort.

Musicology

by yxl1 in

prince has released a new album called musicology.

it is a very strong album and has the added bonus of not having a single jwism in sight.

imagine his latest jazz style, mixed with his mid to late eighties output, blended with his ninties funk and you'll have a good idea what it sounds like.

yxl1

Prince has released a new album called Musicology. It is a very strong album and has the added bonus of not having a single JWism in sight. Imagine his latest jazz style, mixed with his mid to late eighties output, blended with his ninties funk and you'll have a good idea what it sounds like. A couple of below par songs, but as a whole, a lot better than most of his ninties output.

I'm relieved to hear that the WTS hasn't sucked all the life out of the purple imp.

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Did your elders ever anounce the names of inactive publishers?

by carefully faded in

new castles recently posted a topic asking if there were any specific comments people made that caused us to question or leave the orgnaization.

this caused me to remember one particiular incident and was wondering if anyone else experienced anything similar.

our service overseer came to our bookstudy and did his routine talk on, "you're not doing enough", "what you are doing isn't quality", "do more, more, more" in the field service.

yxl1

I've seen this twice before and on both occations during or after the bookstudy. Its almost as if the elder in question knows that the BOE might not agree with his tactics so he weasles them out when they're not around. No one stood up to this elder because our bookstudy consisted of the elderly, single mothers and children. These people are nothing but bullies.

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Is the Bible Just B.S.?

by shamus in

do you think that god enjoys killing people?

it sure sounds like it to me; jw doctrine more or less scared me into thinking that god is going to kill all persons whom he/she thinks is not doing his will.

my question is, how can god kill someone for not being "christian", or following the bible out of sheer ignorance?

yxl1

I do find it a tad annoying when people say that god is a bastard for all the nasty things he has done as recorded in the bible. Well, IMHO the bible was written by a bunch of stoned hippies and has no relation with god. So yes, the bible is just leather bound bullshit.

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Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

by yxl1 in

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browsing the web when i should be working, i found this at evilbible.com.

not sure if its been posted before, but it made me laugh.

enjoy.. 10 - you vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.. .

yxl1

Browsing the web when I should be working, I found this at evilbible.com. Not sure if its been posted before, but it made me laugh. Enjoy.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

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London, my Son, with his Dad, day out, photos

by Celtic in

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photos from the natural history and science museums.

to those that know me and sent their best wishes beforehand, thank you, yes we did have a blinder of a good day out together, was quite exceptionally brilliant, just how it was mean't to be.. kindest regards to you all.. celtic mark.

yxl1

My kids love the natural history museum. Last week we took them to the IMAX cinema in the science museum to see the 3D bugs movie. If you get the chance, check it out with the kids...its fantastic. Doing stuff like this is why its fun to be a dad.

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Would you have to lie to be reinstated if DF'd for something you didn't do?

by True North in

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if a jw was disfellowshipped for something they didn't do -- perhaps as the result of false or mistaken accusations -- would they have to lie by "admitting" the "sin" to get reinstated.

otherwise, if they refused to admit it, wouldn't they be considered unrepentant?

seems like it could be a sort of catch 22.

yxl1

In my case, yes. When I was 17, I worked in a clothes shop on a saturday along with 3 sisters from my congregation. Sat at a table with 3 non-witness collegues during lunch, one of the sisters, an elders daughter entered the lunchroom to see a burning cigarette in the ashtray. For reasons unknown to me, she decided first to inform a few pioneer sisters that she had seen me smoking, and then tell the elders. I spent most of the evening defending my innocence before 3 elders (one of whom is my father-in-law). I was however "let off", but warned that the only reason I wasnt DF'ed was because there was only one eyewitness (They refused to telephone the non-witness collegues who I shared lunch with)

Fast forward 3 months and I'm infront of the same three elders being accused of smoking again. Apparently my jw-neighbour had seen me smoking outside the front of my house. Funny how the time she "saw"me, I was 3 miles away seeing my girlfriend, and can only assume she had spotted my sister having a crafty one. Even though this information was told to the elders, they were happy that they now had their "two eyewittnesses" and I was DF'ed. I was also told that I had every right to appeal, but if it failed, it would be almost impossible for me to be reinstated.

Fast forward 9 months, and I've attended every meeting (except book studies). My letter of reinstation is sent to the PO, and a week later I'm before the same three elders. They then tell me that the only way I can be reinstated is if "you confess before Jehovah, that you did smoke on both occations" I lied and told them I smoked on both occations. The following thursday it was announced that I was reinstated.

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Dear Pioneer Couple:

by Atilla in

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my parents became dubs in the late 70's, after the 1975 debacle.

admitedly, my mom did have one dub relative on her side of the family but the main reason my parents became dubs was because of one influential and convincing pioneer couple who studied with them.

i know we are all mostly victims of victims but often i think of what if, what if that pioneer couple had never studied with my parents, perhaps i would have had a much better childhood and a better start to my adulthood.

yxl1

Sending it, of course, may only make this couple think the worse of you.

I dont think Atila really cares. I say go for it, and make sure you put in every detail of how the WTS has buggered up your childhood. Give actual accounts of incidents that happened...all of them. Mention things that not only affected you, but every child growing up in the cult. It probably wont make a dent in their "spiritual armor", but at least they'll be aware that not everyone who gets sucked into the so called "spiritual paradise" is happy and content. Just keep to the facts and dont let emotions carry the letter. Good luck and keep us posted.

Just do it!

yxl1