Posts by imallgrowedup

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Attention Shotgun -- Wabbit hunting on Mars!

by Elsewhere in

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photographic proof that there are wabbits on mars!

this little bugger has been moving around on mars for some time now... the engineers say that it is just material from the airbags, but i know better... it's a wabbit!!!

imallgrowedup

I think that's m' Cuzen.

LOL @ wascally wabbit!

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Uggggg.... I'm sick. :(

by Elsewhere in

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q. what did the sick elevator say to the other?.

a. i think i'm coming down with something.. .

sunday i woke up with a sore throat.

I'm sorry you have been so sick! I can't believe you lived to tell about your 105.3° temp! When I've been sick enough to have a 103° temp, I literally thought I was dying, so I can not imagine what it has been like to be you lately!

I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better, and that you have provided comfort for your "boys". I've no doubt that you'll be glad you did!

Now go - and be fully recovered!

<- - - - - - - - (ecchinacea tea for you)

growedup

[Edited to add ° - which I just learned from Scully! http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/24/68115/1.ashx ]

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Spoke my mind ...

by Vivamus in

well now, the lesson i learn today is that it feels *good* to speak your mind.

i entered in a battle of will and principles with a person who has none of those, and i came out feeling victorious.

no matter the consequences, no matter the financial loss, self-respect and the moral high ground have been saved for me.

imallgrowedup

(((((Viv)))))

I totally understand where you are coming from. It wasn't all that long ago when I was where you are now. I suspect that this issue isn't so much about whatever financial situation you are in with your father right now, but the fact that this situation is just indicative of so many others you have had with him where you have had glimpses of the realization your eyes are now open to - and that is - that your father isn't who you want and/or need him to be. I can tell you from recent personal experience, I know how that feels in relation to my non-JW parents. In fact, like Nos, I realized that if these people were not my parents, I would never choose to associate with them in the first place. At first, this was the saddest realization I had ever had. But as I finally began to accept that they are who they are, that I am who I am - and that neither of us live up to the other's concept of what the other should be and that nothing would ever change that, it became literally the most liberating experience of my life. When I realized that I really liked who I am - whether they did or not - I was finally free from all the expectations they put upon me (and made darn sure I knew I didn't live up to). With that knowledge, I also realized that if they couldn't change me, then I also couldn't change them. That was pretty mind-blowing, believe it or not! From there I just developed a different plan of action on how to deal with them. Their words, and their passive-agressive manipulative games (including, but not limited to - financial situations) no longer affected me. They were just being who they are - and since I couldn't change that - I wasn't going to ever let those things they said and did ever affect my own self concept again. Once I made that decision, so much of the anger I had carried around for years from which I could never determine the source just vanished - and the depression that I had suffered from since a child, diminished greatly. Since then, our relationship has changed dramatically. Of course, they are frustrated that they can no longer control me, and at first they lashed out with anger I hadn't seen since I was an aggravating teen-ager! But they have come to learn that I'm not taking their crap anymore, and when I get tired of it, I just stay away from them. I don't choose to be around people that are negative and are doing their best to try to bring me down to their level. They have learned that if they want a relationship with me, they are going to have to treat me with respect - which, for the most part, they do now. But they didn't treat me that way until I put my foot down - and I couldn't do that until I was ready to take control of my own life. To this day it makes me sad that my non-JW parents lead unhappy and "woe-is-me" lives, but I can not change that in them. Only they can. I still wish like anything I could have their approval for just being the person I grew up to be, but I don't hinge who I am on that wish. I give the approval to myself instead, because I know that I will never get it from them. And the very best part of all is that even though going through the emotional turmoil to get to where I am now was difficult, I am soooooo happy I went through it. So, even if your realization that your dad is really nothing more than a sperm donor is a sad one right now, I promise you that eventually you will feel much better about it. And once you do, it is easier to deflect whatever animosity there may be between the two of you. Hang in there - I promise it gets better.

If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. I totally understand where you are coming from.

growedup

Grows1 -

Your compassion for this wonderful person who was reaching out for support is overwhelming. I certainly hope that the next time you reach out for understanding, some stranger doesn't blast you a new orifice and tell you where to put it. This isn't to say that you are not entitled to your opinion. However, it is how and when you express it that determines whether it is given any credence. I suggest you work on those two areas if you want to last very long in this environment where we do whatever we can to support one another when we are down - not exacerbate the situation.

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United Ways Audit Report 2003--Watchtower Bible Tract!

by Voyager in

this is the united ways audit report 2003. this time the watchtower is listed at (united way of central new mexico inc.).

the watchtower listed themselves this time, without using the word (society).

simply watchtower bible tract of new york.. my computer has been a bit slow this week, so it took my computer a couple of minutes to download the info, so be a little patient.

imallgrowedup

Voyager -

Hey there! I'm gunna hafta start calling you "The Dilligizer"! You are so dilligent and so patient and you always bring us such great stuff! Awesome work!

BTW - I got your e-mail - I can sometimes be lazy at replying, but that doesn't mean you and the missus are not in my thoughts! (It just means that I can be reaaaaaally rude sometimes! Will you please forgive me?! ) I promise to go right now and answer it, 'k?!

Keep up the good work! I like what you're doing!!!

growedup

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SUGGESTED LETTER CAMPAIGN TO GET THE UN TO RELEASE THE WTS FILE

by hawkaw in

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the pertinent information dealt with confirmation that a ngo by the name of the watchtower bible and tract society of new york , inc. (watchtower) held an ?associated ngo?

this may not seem as an important issue to the united nations.

1) a photocopy of the original 1991 letter from the watchtower to the dpi requesting an application form for ?associate ngo?

imallgrowedup

Catchthis -

Great idea, except the application forms and requirements are online, so it really is not those we would like to see. What we want to know is who from the WT is involved in getting the borg affiliated with the UN. That information would only be available through documents the UN has on file.

BTW - Welcome to the forum! Love your avatar!

Hawk -

I re-read the letter and think that although it is long, there really isn't much that can be cut - as someone earlier mentioned, every point you make is important. I think it is best left intact. What do you think?

Joe -

One thought occurs to me: the ever-opportunistic WTS would spin the UN posting all of that information on their NGO application as the very fulfillment of the prophecies that the United Nations would turn on Jehovah's people. I am dead serious that they may indeed take that approach and use it to feed the persecution complex.

You are right - there are many who may never look at this, or who may believe this is all a part of WT persecution. But there are some who will take notice - and some who will see the light and be able to make an informed decision about the cult that runs their life as to whether or not they want to still belong. If they choose to stay - that is their *informed* choice - but others may leave. I don't think there will be a mass exodus, but if even one person's eyes are opened to this heinous religion, then the time will not be wasted. I appreciate and even agree with your dose of realism, but if we don't try, we will never know the outcome. I am willing to put in a small effort such as writing a letter like this in hopes of something good coming out of it, than sitting back and speculating that nothing will ever happen. Change does not come when we are complacent.

My .02,

growedup

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Favorite Online Games?

by Scully in

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do you have any favorite games?.

my current favorite is adventure elf and also a few others from www.kewlbox.com

imallgrowedup

I'm feeling a bit unsophistocated right now...! I like Word Mojo on Yahoo! and I also enjoy Spider Solitaire! I used to play online backgammon, but don't have time now that I'm addicted to JWD!!! Please pray for my deliverance!

growedup

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Down under joke

by PopeOfEruke in

a bloke's wife goes missing while holidaying on the australian coast.

he spends a terrible night wondering what could have happened to her.. next morning there's a knock at the door and he is confronted by a couple of pretty miserable policemen, the old sarge and a younger constable.. the sarge says, "mate, we have some news for you, unfortunately some really bad news, but, some good news and maybe some really good news".. "well," says the bloke, "you'd better let me have it both barrels, what's the bad news?".

the sarge says, "i'm really sorry pal, but your wife is dead.

imallgrowedup

OMG! Is there no respect for the dead?!!!!

growedup

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how about e-watchman

by visualt in

i'm in bkk thailand and i have some question for ask you here.

- why you leave from wtc.

- if you 're ex-jw and already leave from wtc ... where you go.

imallgrowedup

Visualt -

Welcome to the board! Yes, most here are former JW's, and most have left because of the hypocrisy and/or because of the way they were treated. Everyone has a different story to tell, and most have found new paths that are right for them. There is a lot to read around here, so grab yourself something to drink and relax - there's a lot for you to catch up on!

growedup

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NGO Why then?

by confusedjw in

what would be the *real* motive then, if not the library card, for the wtbts to become an ngo?

is it possible someone got confused or misinformed that they needed to become an ngo to continue with the library?

i can't for the life of me figure out the motive.

imallgrowedup

I spit on their arrogant, shiny bald heads!

*removes soft cloth to gently polish cue ball then admires smiling reflection*!

growedup

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Has anyone else heard this?

by unique1 in

i was told the jw's were predicting a new date based on moses timeline as opposed to daniel and ezekial.

i don't get the magazines anymore so i don't have the feb. 1st watchtower that i was told the article was in.

does anyone know the name of this article so i can read it on the watchtower.org?

imallgrowedup

Unique1 -

My dub parents visited a couple of weeks ago - and I am now assuming it had to be after the study with this information in it. My dad brought up the subject of when Armageddon might come, and I told him that I thought it was futile to speculate since even Jesus didn't know when it was coming. He then asked my opinion on what I thought about Jehovah telling Moses that he had 120 years to try to bring people back to him and build the ark yadda yadda yadda. I responded by telling him that God had been very specific to Moses as far as a time frame went. But when Jesus spoke of the end, he was very vague - he only mentioned things that we would see happen but that they were only "birth pains" - not the actual event - and that only God knew when it would be. I even told him that I thought that it was possible that God had never set a specific pre-determined date for the Big A - that it would depend upon when mankind crossed a certain threshold - and that is why even Jesus didn't know when it would be. He got very quiet, then went and woke up my mother (who wasn't feeling well and was sleeping in the other room) and within the next five minutes - they were gone. It was a very strange encounter. My point is that I believe that some dubs are 'getting the message' of the 120 year generation, even if it is only eluded to in JW literature.

Shotgun -

I'm still waiting for my bad girl angel....she must not be ready to hang up the old wings yet...

That cute little "bad girl" in my avatar is named "Angel - ica" ... and her wings are at the dry cleaners right now ....!

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